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<blockquote data-quote="bluehdmc" data-source="post: 543861" data-attributes="member: 18471"><p>Yes I have an open mind, at least it's more open than your's. You seem to blame most of the current ills on the unions. </p><p>No you did not say the ENTIRE economic meltdown was caused by the unions strike at American Axle. You did state that, "one can date it almost to the day that the UAW walked out of American Axle these many months ago....."</p><p>Or were you talking about the auto industry? Same thing, it's the unions fault. </p><p>Of course none of the auto industries problems were the result of gas rising to $4.00+ per gallon and the fact that the US automakers seemed to focus their efforts on making gas-guzzling SUV's. (Also the ones with the highest profit margins, (numbers anyone). Was that managements decision to make them or did the UAW "thugs" twist the carmakers arms? </p><p>Maybe if US carmakers had invested in better cars instead of creating Saturn and Hummer, with the accompanying dealer infrastructure they may have had more success. </p><p>Speaking of $4.00 gasoline, was it the Union oil and gas speculators. or Wall St? </p><p>More money has been stolen by MBA's with a briefcase and a smile than was ever stolen by a MAC-10 and a scowl. </p><p>But it's the unions fault. </p><p>The Teamsters twisted the arm of Yellow's management to buy larger Roadway, and aquire all that associated debt right before the economic downturn. </p><p>But it's the unions fault. </p><p>Industries have risen and fallen, out of how many automobile manufacturer in 1920 how many are left? </p><p>How many manufactures. It's been said for years that we've become a service industry oriented society. </p><p>There probably hasn't been a television set manufactured in the US in 30+ years, was that the fault of the unions, according to you it must be. </p><p>There used to be many small dairy farms in the area where I live, now they are all gone, there also was a milkman delivering milk when I was a kid, not anymore, was that the fault of the unions? Or is it because most households both people work and people get their milk at the supermarket, which happen to be unionized where I am. </p><p>Most manufacturing has gone overseas, not just here in the US, heavy manufacturing has also declined in Japan. </p><p>Of course it must be the fault of the trade unions. </p><p>It cannot be a management decision to move whereout of the country (it's the fault of the unions) yes, I'll admit lower wages, but also less govt regulation in regards to safety and environmental concerns. </p><p>Would you like one of those plants in your neighborhood? Or would you want the govt to clean them up so your children would grow up in a safe area?</p><p>China has sold how many tainted goods that have had to be recalled. I don't believe it was the trade unions that made the decisions to use lead based paints, etc. I do like the idea that they sentenced one of the managers to death for some sort of infraction like that. Bet the next one thinks twice before cutting corners!</p><p>But it's the unions fault. </p><p>Hasn't Argentina had runaway inflation for years? I think 1600% a number of years ago, (actually the last time I paid any attention to Argentina) must have been the unions fault. </p><p>The new mantra, " it's all the unions fault"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bluehdmc, post: 543861, member: 18471"] Yes I have an open mind, at least it's more open than your's. You seem to blame most of the current ills on the unions. No you did not say the ENTIRE economic meltdown was caused by the unions strike at American Axle. You did state that, "one can date it almost to the day that the UAW walked out of American Axle these many months ago....." Or were you talking about the auto industry? Same thing, it's the unions fault. Of course none of the auto industries problems were the result of gas rising to $4.00+ per gallon and the fact that the US automakers seemed to focus their efforts on making gas-guzzling SUV's. (Also the ones with the highest profit margins, (numbers anyone). Was that managements decision to make them or did the UAW "thugs" twist the carmakers arms? Maybe if US carmakers had invested in better cars instead of creating Saturn and Hummer, with the accompanying dealer infrastructure they may have had more success. Speaking of $4.00 gasoline, was it the Union oil and gas speculators. or Wall St? More money has been stolen by MBA's with a briefcase and a smile than was ever stolen by a MAC-10 and a scowl. But it's the unions fault. The Teamsters twisted the arm of Yellow's management to buy larger Roadway, and aquire all that associated debt right before the economic downturn. But it's the unions fault. Industries have risen and fallen, out of how many automobile manufacturer in 1920 how many are left? How many manufactures. It's been said for years that we've become a service industry oriented society. There probably hasn't been a television set manufactured in the US in 30+ years, was that the fault of the unions, according to you it must be. There used to be many small dairy farms in the area where I live, now they are all gone, there also was a milkman delivering milk when I was a kid, not anymore, was that the fault of the unions? Or is it because most households both people work and people get their milk at the supermarket, which happen to be unionized where I am. Most manufacturing has gone overseas, not just here in the US, heavy manufacturing has also declined in Japan. Of course it must be the fault of the trade unions. It cannot be a management decision to move whereout of the country (it's the fault of the unions) yes, I'll admit lower wages, but also less govt regulation in regards to safety and environmental concerns. Would you like one of those plants in your neighborhood? Or would you want the govt to clean them up so your children would grow up in a safe area? China has sold how many tainted goods that have had to be recalled. I don't believe it was the trade unions that made the decisions to use lead based paints, etc. I do like the idea that they sentenced one of the managers to death for some sort of infraction like that. Bet the next one thinks twice before cutting corners! But it's the unions fault. Hasn't Argentina had runaway inflation for years? I think 1600% a number of years ago, (actually the last time I paid any attention to Argentina) must have been the unions fault. The new mantra, " it's all the unions fault" [/QUOTE]
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