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<blockquote data-quote="westsideworma" data-source="post: 154479"><p>......but why should we take the cut? we're not the ones who come up with these brilliant plans (which almost never make anything better) to save this company. We come in and do our jobs as we're directed to do, why should we pay when it doesn't work? It doesn't work because those tight numbers you speak of are usually next to impossible to attain. They don't base them in a place I like to call reality. I think they should let our service do the talking personally. Our customers couldn't care less if we did a stop in 5 min instead of 6 so long as we got all their packages there, when they wanted them. If there is too much work to allow us to get our service, put more drivers on the road, its that simple. </p><p></p><p>If we had said drivers, they wouldn't "whine" about sales leads piling more work onto them because it could be spread around evenly and I bet you they would be more apt to get them (leads). It'd also mean more money for UPS, granted it'd pay for the drivers they hired, but if they kept getting leads it would increase market share as well.</p><p></p><p>For an example in unrealistic numbers, the current plan on my shift seems to be expecting preloaders to load at 250pph and have no misloads. They don't even play by their own rules, PAS only calls for 180 in the green cards with the quick facts about it that they handed out when we went live. So by those standards since I have 900-1100 pieces a day I should have about 5-6 hours to do it. Granted I don't load that slow anyways, but its the principle of the thing. Also cramming 1100 packages into 3 cars is not smart either. IF we had that time I guarantee misloads would go down if not disappear and the load quality would greatly improve. But apparently "drivers don't care about load quality just misloads" (the latest jewel we were fed). Drivers on this board is this true? Would you rather have a tight load (mostly sequenced stop for stop as space allows as well) with a misload now and then (every other day or two or so) or no misloads and a big mess of boxes down the middle of your truck everyday? I am honestly curious.</p><p></p><p>However it will never happen, not because that would actually work, but because it costs $$$ and could keep managers from buying that new house or that new car this month instead of a month or two down the road because they won't get that stock or salary bonus (that one came from someone IN management so don't go quoting class angst again). This person actually does give a damn about hourlies and understands that the majority of us do work hard and give our best everyday but they are in the minority so nothing changes. They have tried to load a pull that is a little heavier than mine in 4hrs and even they admit it cannot be done without help...which we don't have because we cut extra people back, it took 3 supervisors to get it done...3! and they whine because we don't finish? come on now. I know they shouldn't be loading but I won't talk about that right now either (as they do pretty much everyday somewhere).</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying everyone in management is bad, because thats next to impossible, but if their immediate superior is bad, they MUST do what they are told which in effect makes them unfair as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="westsideworma, post: 154479"] ......but why should we take the cut? we're not the ones who come up with these brilliant plans (which almost never make anything better) to save this company. We come in and do our jobs as we're directed to do, why should we pay when it doesn't work? It doesn't work because those tight numbers you speak of are usually next to impossible to attain. They don't base them in a place I like to call reality. I think they should let our service do the talking personally. Our customers couldn't care less if we did a stop in 5 min instead of 6 so long as we got all their packages there, when they wanted them. If there is too much work to allow us to get our service, put more drivers on the road, its that simple. If we had said drivers, they wouldn't "whine" about sales leads piling more work onto them because it could be spread around evenly and I bet you they would be more apt to get them (leads). It'd also mean more money for UPS, granted it'd pay for the drivers they hired, but if they kept getting leads it would increase market share as well. For an example in unrealistic numbers, the current plan on my shift seems to be expecting preloaders to load at 250pph and have no misloads. They don't even play by their own rules, PAS only calls for 180 in the green cards with the quick facts about it that they handed out when we went live. So by those standards since I have 900-1100 pieces a day I should have about 5-6 hours to do it. Granted I don't load that slow anyways, but its the principle of the thing. Also cramming 1100 packages into 3 cars is not smart either. IF we had that time I guarantee misloads would go down if not disappear and the load quality would greatly improve. But apparently "drivers don't care about load quality just misloads" (the latest jewel we were fed). Drivers on this board is this true? Would you rather have a tight load (mostly sequenced stop for stop as space allows as well) with a misload now and then (every other day or two or so) or no misloads and a big mess of boxes down the middle of your truck everyday? I am honestly curious. However it will never happen, not because that would actually work, but because it costs $$$ and could keep managers from buying that new house or that new car this month instead of a month or two down the road because they won't get that stock or salary bonus (that one came from someone IN management so don't go quoting class angst again). This person actually does give a damn about hourlies and understands that the majority of us do work hard and give our best everyday but they are in the minority so nothing changes. They have tried to load a pull that is a little heavier than mine in 4hrs and even they admit it cannot be done without help...which we don't have because we cut extra people back, it took 3 supervisors to get it done...3! and they whine because we don't finish? come on now. I know they shouldn't be loading but I won't talk about that right now either (as they do pretty much everyday somewhere). I'm not saying everyone in management is bad, because thats next to impossible, but if their immediate superior is bad, they MUST do what they are told which in effect makes them unfair as well. [/QUOTE]
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