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Is UPS really this bad to work for, or are people exaggerating??
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<blockquote data-quote="canon" data-source="post: 159283" data-attributes="member: 8423"><p>I never said they agreed I should twist your words. I said they agreed with my assessments. (In red. Or scroll up.) Again, you dodge the issue. You really aren't fooling anyone. The drivers <em>already know</em> what it's like to work in their own center, despite your best efforts to paint them as dishonest. It's better for some sure, that reflects the centers that have had better management. It never even started out as an US vs THEM discussion until you chimed in bent on defending the very management UPS saw fit to fire. </p><p></p><p>That makes you an apologist for the company in the face of already having admitted you understand the value UPS places on driver/customer interaction. But in your little world of being the yesman to the next higher tie, resorting to insults is much easier than actually facing the problems and having to address them. Even if you think someone IS doing nothing more than complaining, isn't it a function of management to stay above that and behave like a professional?</p><p></p><p>Once again, you dodge the question. All the drivers who echo the same problems in their centers as I've outlined in these threads... are they just whining too? Are they stupid like you said I was? The posts have been read, don't try to backpeddle now. Everyone is wrong... except the people who don't have to do the work? Address the issues, be the professional you pretend to be on here. That really is a clip on tie isn't it? Some sups earn the respect of the drivers to wear that tie... you just clip yours on. Instant superiority mentality. How typical.</p><p></p><p>Address the issues and stop with the insults.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="canon, post: 159283, member: 8423"] I never said they agreed I should twist your words. I said they agreed with my assessments. (In red. Or scroll up.) Again, you dodge the issue. You really aren't fooling anyone. The drivers [I]already know[/I] what it's like to work in their own center, despite your best efforts to paint them as dishonest. It's better for some sure, that reflects the centers that have had better management. It never even started out as an US vs THEM discussion until you chimed in bent on defending the very management UPS saw fit to fire. That makes you an apologist for the company in the face of already having admitted you understand the value UPS places on driver/customer interaction. But in your little world of being the yesman to the next higher tie, resorting to insults is much easier than actually facing the problems and having to address them. Even if you think someone IS doing nothing more than complaining, isn't it a function of management to stay above that and behave like a professional? Once again, you dodge the question. All the drivers who echo the same problems in their centers as I've outlined in these threads... are they just whining too? Are they stupid like you said I was? The posts have been read, don't try to backpeddle now. Everyone is wrong... except the people who don't have to do the work? Address the issues, be the professional you pretend to be on here. That really is a clip on tie isn't it? Some sups earn the respect of the drivers to wear that tie... you just clip yours on. Instant superiority mentality. How typical. Address the issues and stop with the insults. [/QUOTE]
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