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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 465912" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>AV8, maybe you missed the part where <span style="font-size: 22px"><strong>ALL</strong></span><span style="font-size: 10px"> civilized nations try <span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>DIPLOMACY</strong></span> first. This is what democracy is all about.</span></p><p> </p><p>You consistently ring the battle cry of the military for all situations. Its funny how people are convinced that violence is the way to solve all problems.</p><p> </p><p>Has history not taught you any lessons?</p><p> </p><p>You said we "have a tendency" to try non military solutions. Versus what?</p><p> </p><p>An Air campaign that kills hundreds if not thousands of people? Shall we be the country responsible for spreading nuclear fallout all over the middle east with our precision bombing? The kind that has killed thousands of Iraqis civilians since the begining of the war?</p><p> </p><p>Shall we blow up nuclear power plants and allow the radiation to escape into the atmosphere contaminating the world just to avoid diplomacy?</p><p> </p><p>Only an idiot would believe we or Israel could bomb a nuclear facility and prevent fallout if in fact that plant was producing atomic weapons.</p><p> </p><p>There would be no way to contain the escaping radiation.</p><p> </p><p>The military does what its told, just like a little kid listening to its parents, it does NOT make policy or influence a goverment.</p><p> </p><p>Time to change the tv off the military channel and get with reality AV8.</p><p> </p><p>2 failed wars in 8 years. Afghanistan is a mess and has to be retaken, the taliban is 3 times larger and better funded than when we went in, heroin/poppy exportation is now 5 times larger than ever thanks to the american troops assigned to protect them on behalf of the karzid goverment.</p><p> </p><p>Lets not kid anyone. 2 wars that failed both objectives. We are not safer today than 2001. </p><p> </p><p>Just because there hasnt been an attack on us soil doesnt mean these 2 wars prevented them from happening. The mere increase in homeland security within our borders is responsible for that.</p><p> </p><p>You keep on living the dream man, guns solve all problems, but you will only get a few thousand more kids killed.</p><p> </p><p>Just today, the Saudi Arabian goverment has pledged 1 billion dollars to rebuild gaza. Other middle eastern countries will do the same and this time, they will arm the palentinians with better weapons and protections.</p><p> </p><p>All Israel did was guarantee themselves 100 more years of attacks.</p><p> </p><p>All that american provided arms to crush an unarmed people, vs. backyard bottle rockets that carry a payload of about 8 m-80's. 1000 pound bombs dropped on gaza schools seems a fair fight in your mind, right AV8?</p><p> </p><p>I wonder if you know that of all the thousands of bottle rockets fired, or better put, lobbed into Israel, 97% of them land in empty fields of streets? In 12 months leading up to the Israeli invasion, only 3 people have actually been killed by these rockets. Now, in retaliation, over 1000 civilians have been killed in 3 weeks. Is this fair? And if so, how does it end the hatred for Israel?</p><p> </p><p>Maybe if Israel did something to help these people, like help build infrastructure and create jobs, increase the standard of living since Israel took there land to begin with, maybe the hostile feelings would end?</p><p> </p><p>We, will never bring peace to that region as long as we provide the means for Israel to demolish other countries. They will always be hated by their neighbors.</p><p> </p><p>Of all the destruction they have caused, what did they accomplish? With 1 billion dollars in restoration aid, what cant the palestinian hamas buy?</p><p> </p><p>Another military blunder.</p><p> </p><p>Time will tell.<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/dead.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":dead:" title="Dead :dead:" data-shortname=":dead:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 465912, member: 17969"] AV8, maybe you missed the part where [SIZE=6][B]ALL[/B][/SIZE][SIZE=2] civilized nations try [SIZE=5][B]DIPLOMACY[/B][/SIZE] first. This is what democracy is all about.[/SIZE] You consistently ring the battle cry of the military for all situations. Its funny how people are convinced that violence is the way to solve all problems. Has history not taught you any lessons? You said we "have a tendency" to try non military solutions. Versus what? An Air campaign that kills hundreds if not thousands of people? Shall we be the country responsible for spreading nuclear fallout all over the middle east with our precision bombing? The kind that has killed thousands of Iraqis civilians since the begining of the war? Shall we blow up nuclear power plants and allow the radiation to escape into the atmosphere contaminating the world just to avoid diplomacy? Only an idiot would believe we or Israel could bomb a nuclear facility and prevent fallout if in fact that plant was producing atomic weapons. There would be no way to contain the escaping radiation. The military does what its told, just like a little kid listening to its parents, it does NOT make policy or influence a goverment. Time to change the tv off the military channel and get with reality AV8. 2 failed wars in 8 years. Afghanistan is a mess and has to be retaken, the taliban is 3 times larger and better funded than when we went in, heroin/poppy exportation is now 5 times larger than ever thanks to the american troops assigned to protect them on behalf of the karzid goverment. Lets not kid anyone. 2 wars that failed both objectives. We are not safer today than 2001. Just because there hasnt been an attack on us soil doesnt mean these 2 wars prevented them from happening. The mere increase in homeland security within our borders is responsible for that. You keep on living the dream man, guns solve all problems, but you will only get a few thousand more kids killed. Just today, the Saudi Arabian goverment has pledged 1 billion dollars to rebuild gaza. Other middle eastern countries will do the same and this time, they will arm the palentinians with better weapons and protections. All Israel did was guarantee themselves 100 more years of attacks. All that american provided arms to crush an unarmed people, vs. backyard bottle rockets that carry a payload of about 8 m-80's. 1000 pound bombs dropped on gaza schools seems a fair fight in your mind, right AV8? I wonder if you know that of all the thousands of bottle rockets fired, or better put, lobbed into Israel, 97% of them land in empty fields of streets? In 12 months leading up to the Israeli invasion, only 3 people have actually been killed by these rockets. Now, in retaliation, over 1000 civilians have been killed in 3 weeks. Is this fair? And if so, how does it end the hatred for Israel? Maybe if Israel did something to help these people, like help build infrastructure and create jobs, increase the standard of living since Israel took there land to begin with, maybe the hostile feelings would end? We, will never bring peace to that region as long as we provide the means for Israel to demolish other countries. They will always be hated by their neighbors. Of all the destruction they have caused, what did they accomplish? With 1 billion dollars in restoration aid, what cant the palestinian hamas buy? Another military blunder. Time will tell.:dead: [/QUOTE]
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