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<blockquote data-quote="Hawaii50" data-source="post: 466338" data-attributes="member: 15838"><p>"Remove the taliban from power" Partial sucess. The taliban just moved there base of operations south into Pakistan. Keep in mind that a U.S. outpost was almost over run by the taliban a few months ago. Since that attack you hear in media more troops "reinforcements" enroute to the afghan theater of war. </p><p> </p><p>"Remove Saddam from power." Success concede that to you. </p><p> </p><p>"Neutralize Osma Bin Liden." Minimal Success, if OBL was really neutralzed their would be a decline in International soliders deaths in the Afghan theater. With in the past couple months more international soliders died from hostile fire in the Afghan theater than the Iraqi theater. OBL is still an inspiration to the fighters in the Afghan theater. </p><p> </p><p>"Deny Saddam the ability to restart his WMD program." No sucess there. Your statement is <strong>Historical revisionism in the making</strong>. The motive for war in Iraq was Saddam already POSSESSED WMD's. Not restart the WMD program. </p><p> </p><p> "Governments elected by the people of Afghanistan and Iraq." Partial Success." Because some of those people feel that their current government is puppets for the US motives and want change "About 35 Iraqi officials have been arrested at the interior ministry, some accused of planning a coup" <a href="http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKN1736078020081218" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #800080">http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKN1736078020081218</span></u></a> </p><p> </p><p>"Minimize US military deaths" Partial sucess. The deaths is down from the peaks. Keep in mind the enemy could be playing possum and just going along with plans, waiting for the opportunity to strike. </p><p> </p><p>"Prevent more attacks on US soil" Presently that is a success. However that can change on a dime. </p><p> </p><p>"Neutralize Al Queada" Minimial success. Everytime I read about some kind of terror attack in some other country from small bombs on buses in the UK, bombing of western hotels in Bali, Jakarta, etc. To guys with automatic rifles in India. That is not a neutralized Al-Qeda. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>What you claim as successful objectives met. I claim as minimial to partial success. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>This war on terror is going to end only in two ways. Either their will be peace through Diplomacy. Or peace through Genocide. I say Genocide because you have kill everybody who has same ideas or is sympathetic to the cause of your enemy. As long as your enmey has oxygen in the brain they will pass on the message of why they fight to other people "future fighters". <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group2/gun_bandana.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":gun_banda" title="Gun Bandana :gun_banda" data-shortname=":gun_banda" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hawaii50, post: 466338, member: 15838"] "Remove the taliban from power" Partial sucess. The taliban just moved there base of operations south into Pakistan. Keep in mind that a U.S. outpost was almost over run by the taliban a few months ago. Since that attack you hear in media more troops "reinforcements" enroute to the afghan theater of war. "Remove Saddam from power." Success concede that to you. "Neutralize Osma Bin Liden." Minimal Success, if OBL was really neutralzed their would be a decline in International soliders deaths in the Afghan theater. With in the past couple months more international soliders died from hostile fire in the Afghan theater than the Iraqi theater. OBL is still an inspiration to the fighters in the Afghan theater. "Deny Saddam the ability to restart his WMD program." No sucess there. Your statement is [B]Historical revisionism in the making[/B]. The motive for war in Iraq was Saddam already POSSESSED WMD's. Not restart the WMD program. "Governments elected by the people of Afghanistan and Iraq." Partial Success." Because some of those people feel that their current government is puppets for the US motives and want change "About 35 Iraqi officials have been arrested at the interior ministry, some accused of planning a coup" [URL="http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKN1736078020081218"][U][COLOR=#800080]http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKN1736078020081218[/COLOR][/U][/URL] "Minimize US military deaths" Partial sucess. The deaths is down from the peaks. Keep in mind the enemy could be playing possum and just going along with plans, waiting for the opportunity to strike. "Prevent more attacks on US soil" Presently that is a success. However that can change on a dime. "Neutralize Al Queada" Minimial success. Everytime I read about some kind of terror attack in some other country from small bombs on buses in the UK, bombing of western hotels in Bali, Jakarta, etc. To guys with automatic rifles in India. That is not a neutralized Al-Qeda. What you claim as successful objectives met. I claim as minimial to partial success. This war on terror is going to end only in two ways. Either their will be peace through Diplomacy. Or peace through Genocide. I say Genocide because you have kill everybody who has same ideas or is sympathetic to the cause of your enemy. As long as your enmey has oxygen in the brain they will pass on the message of why they fight to other people "future fighters". :gun_banda [/QUOTE]
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