Joining the Union now or wait after the year?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Ups_newbie20, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. Ups_newbie20

    Ups_newbie20 New Member

    I'm from a RTW state and have been working at UPS for about 6 months. I received a letter to join the union. i want to join but worry about getting layoff after Christmas. Would it be best to wait after the year to join? thanks!
     
  2. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Yes, the year after you become a full time driver.
    Until you become full time, the Union is just using your benefit funding to pay for Full Time driver funding.
     
  3. retiredTxfeeder

    retiredTxfeeder cap'n crunch

    Join as fast as you possibly can. Get some fresh money in there to help pay for the retired folks. lol.
     
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  4. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Guest

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  5. Shifting Contents

    Shifting Contents Most Help Needed

    You just made that up
     
  6. 8000Shelf

    8000Shelf Active Member

    Wait to join.

    Who needs raises, health benefits, pensions, vacations, job security, seniority rights...
     
  7. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Those are all the things that drivers have and you don't.
     
  8. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Wait to join, someones gotta be the "we'll get to that termination case next month, to many other brothers and sisters need theirs to be heard first"
     
  9. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    In a RTW situation, don't you get all that a union member co-worker gets, even though you are not in the union?
     
  10. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    You don't get to vote. Oh yeah, you do get the same representation others get, I mean, stewards treat you the same and help you word grievances correctly, return your phone calls promptly, and include you in up to date information regarding your rights. Yeah, they get treated the same....
     
  11. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Yes you do except when you have pay problems or a discipline issue. Being non Union may put you in the back of the line for representation.
     
  12. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    From what I understood, the union has to defend non-members, true?
     
  13. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    No no no, they get treated just the same. I mean, I know I'd go out of my way to help someone leeching off my dues.....
     
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  14. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Part-timers don't leech off your dues ... it's the other way around.
     
  15. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Yes, defend, sometimes meetings don't happen until weeks down the line and there's only so much time in the day.
     
  16. 8000Shelf

    8000Shelf Active Member

    I don't see why they should have any representation what so ever.
     
  17. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    How fair is it for a PTer to pay as much and a lot of times more in Union dues then a FT.
     
  18. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Oh, so they go out and negotiate their own contracts, defend themselves with discipline using the same black book we have as paying members, and pay their time in the trenches like the rest of us did with a FT job waiting on them at the end if they so choose?
     
  19. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Not sure where you're going with this, you know dues are based in hours, not pay rate.
     
  20. 8000Shelf

    8000Shelf Active Member

    I pay more as a full timer than I ever did as a part timer
     
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