Jumpers

[Jkloc420]

Do you think union members will ever vote for jumpers to be used year round. Good way for part time workers to pick up hours. Of course seniority would have to be honored. What are the drivers thoughts on this. I know in the last contract it was discussed but eventually they removed it from the contract.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Do you think union members will ever vote for jumpers to be used year round. Good way for part time workers to pick up hours. Of course seniority would have to be honored. What are the drivers thoughts on this. I know in the last contract it was discussed but eventually they removed it from the contract.

We will never have that option. This is a side deal worked out between the company and union.

 

[cosmo1]

They are used year-round in some areas.

 

[Lead Belly]

Don't jump it's never really that bad.

 

[Lead Belly]

They are used year-round in some areas.

Unfortunately

 

[Dr.Brownz]

I was told that year round helpers are currently paid Top driver wage if used outside peak; I could see a provision being added like 1 out of every 15 routes can have a helper just.like the 2 routes starting at noon provision in the current contract

 

[BrownTexas]

No. If I need a jumper year round then they need to add more routes and let my part time brothers have the opportunity at a full time position.

 

[HardknocksUPSer]

No. If I need a jumper year round then they need to add more routes and let my part time brothers have the opportunity at a full time position.

Winner winner chicken dinner! Good post!

 

[Dr.Brownz]

No. If I need a jumper year round then they need to add more routes and let my part time brothers have the opportunity at a full time position.

Some places use helpers year round for large mall complexes. The helper is a FT driver technically though.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Local 804 has 22.3s that are helpers.

 

[Orion inc.]

Do you think union members will ever vote for jumpers to be used year round. Good way for part time workers to pick up hours. Of course seniority would have to be honored. What are the drivers thoughts on this. I know in the last contract it was discussed but eventually they removed it from the contract.

And then you'll wonder "where are all the new driver jobs"? You think route cutting is bad now, add jumpers and you'll eliminate half the routes in a center.

Good way for part timers to stay part time and screw themselves out of a FT driver job

 

[PiedmontSteward]

Only if they were created as part of a 22.3 job as they've done in Local 804.

Using a $10/hr driver helper year-round would make the waiting list to go FT ridiculous. Created a few 22.3s for the heaviest routes for preload/driver helper with someone topping out around $30/hour wouldn't be so bad.

 

[burrheadd]

Only if they were created as part of a 22.3 job as they've done in Local 804.

Using a $10/hr driver helper year-round would make the waiting list to go FT ridiculous. Created a few 22.3s for the heaviest routes for preload/driver helper with someone topping out around $30/hour wouldn't be so bad.

Screw that put some more full time seniority drivers on

 

[upschuck]

Screw that put some more full time seniority drivers on

A FT driver can handle fluctuations in volume easier than a driver/helper combination.

 

[Jkloc420]

And then you'll wonder "where are all the new driver jobs"? You think route cutting is bad now, add jumpers and you'll eliminate half the routes in a center.

Good way for part timers to stay part time and screw themselves out of a FT driver job

Seems we got a lot of seasonal drivers to screw us out of full time work. I see the jobs posted on monster.com all the time. Which seems to be what ups is doing. Not sure how they can get around hiring tons of seasonal people and putting up one full time driver job. Don't make a lot of sense does it.

 

[Tough Guy]

Only if they were created as part of a 22.3 job as they've done in Local 804.

Using a $10/hr driver helper year-round would make the waiting list to go FT ridiculous. Created a few 22.3s for the heaviest routes for preload/driver helper with someone topping out around $30/hour wouldn't be so bad.

I agree with this. I desperately wanted to be a helper year round before I was able to drive.

On a side note, the experience I gained as a helper was a huge help to me when i went driving. Already knew the Diad, had some area knowledge from the routes I helped on, etc.

 

[box_beeyotch]

I agree with this. I desperately wanted to be a helper year round before I was able to drive.

On a side note, the experience I gained as a helper was a huge help to me when i went driving. Already knew the Diad, had some area knowledge from the routes I helped on, etc.

The last part is dead on. Being a helper helps prepare you tremendously for what being a driver is like.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I agree with this. I desperately wanted to be a helper year round before I was able to drive.

On a side note, the experience I gained as a helper was a huge help to me when i went driving. Already knew the Diad, had some area knowledge from the routes I helped on, etc.

Two of my helpers became drivers.

 

[cosmo1]

Two of my helpers became drivers.

BTW, Dave, so did two of mine.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

BTW, Dave, so did two of mine.

Mine were in this century.