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jurisdiction after you punch out?
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<blockquote data-quote="SFBayUPSer" data-source="post: 433846" data-attributes="member: 18032"><p>Indy, perhaps your right about what you posted but that may only pertain to your state. </p><p> </p><p>In California private security guards can make citizens arrests just like anyone else can. With respect to your "being a security guard for a few years", I have been thru a California POST certified academy. </p><p> </p><p>In addition, California licensed security guards are even more applicable to laws because they have a 40 hours powers to arrest training course. So, a uniformed guard tells you to STOP and not leave, that DOES constitute an arrest one way or the other. You don't have to be handcuffed, you don't have to be told "your under arrest". </p><p> </p><p>Im not advocating one way or the other for the guy. Im just stating facts. Techinically this security guard could get in trouble for "arresting" this guy and not giving due process. Once he stopped him for possesion of a controlled substance and wanted to violate him for UPS policy's, he apparently unknowingly arrested him for possesion of a controlled substance. </p><p> </p><p>So it looks like two people could loose their job. </p><p> </p><p>At the Northbay Hub, we have metal detectors and several large uniformed guard equipped with handcuffs & occasionalluy there are some armed guards visiting from another site down the street. Here in Richmond California, Private Patrol companies are almost identical looking to police, and arrest people ALL THE TIME. </p><p>Please excuse and spelling and grammer mistakes as I am typing fast and must leave now. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>So with all due respect Indy, being in Indy, you my friend have no idea what YOUR talking about.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SFBayUPSer, post: 433846, member: 18032"] Indy, perhaps your right about what you posted but that may only pertain to your state. In California private security guards can make citizens arrests just like anyone else can. With respect to your "being a security guard for a few years", I have been thru a California POST certified academy. In addition, California licensed security guards are even more applicable to laws because they have a 40 hours powers to arrest training course. So, a uniformed guard tells you to STOP and not leave, that DOES constitute an arrest one way or the other. You don't have to be handcuffed, you don't have to be told "your under arrest". Im not advocating one way or the other for the guy. Im just stating facts. Techinically this security guard could get in trouble for "arresting" this guy and not giving due process. Once he stopped him for possesion of a controlled substance and wanted to violate him for UPS policy's, he apparently unknowingly arrested him for possesion of a controlled substance. So it looks like two people could loose their job. At the Northbay Hub, we have metal detectors and several large uniformed guard equipped with handcuffs & occasionalluy there are some armed guards visiting from another site down the street. Here in Richmond California, Private Patrol companies are almost identical looking to police, and arrest people ALL THE TIME. Please excuse and spelling and grammer mistakes as I am typing fast and must leave now. :) So with all due respect Indy, being in Indy, you my friend have no idea what YOUR talking about. [/QUOTE]
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