Last chance agreement

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by cafelatte, Mar 28, 2015.

  1. cafelatte

    cafelatte Member

    Does anyone know exactly what this is. I've heard these are something to get members back
     
  2. Sometimes they will let you back if you sign one,depending on what you did. But if you screw up again ,you have never recourse.
     
  3. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    We have one at our building now. Just waiting for it to happen. Just means the union is getting weaker. Day by day.
     
  4. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Most of "last chance agreements" I have seen are in regards to attendance.
    With attendance being a fairly cut and dry issue, aside from FMLA eligible circumstances, last chance agreements seem appropriate and aptly named.
    For those of you opposed to them, I ask what a better alternative would be for those employees with poor attendance or the like, that have progressed to the level of discharge?
     
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  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Huh?

    A last chance agreement is a concession by the company to retain an employee that they want to get rid of. 99% of the time the employee screws up again and the company can then terminate them without recourse.
     
  6. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Exactly.

    After numerous suspensions....

    Hence the term "last chance".


    I wouldn't say the percentage is that high, but the intent is to eliminate the need

    to once again, have to meet over the issue. And if the employee violates the terms.... goodbye.


    Not every case, is worthy of this. It's usually because the employee has some redeeming

    "work qualities".... and the company agrees, to try and salvage them.


    Last chance agreements are common, in all Union environments.



    -Bug-
     
  7. RonBurgandy??????????

    RonBurgandy?????????? God is Great, beer is good , People are crazy.

    I know of more than one employee who had this " last chance agreement" but when was said and done, were still not fired when violating agreement.
     
  8. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    They violated a written agreement.... that they signed ?

    And they company didn't hold them to it ?


    Send those company Labor people my way.



    -Bug-
     
  9. RonBurgandy??????????

    RonBurgandy?????????? God is Great, beer is good , People are crazy.

    Yep. DUI cases.
     
  10. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Interesting.

    The only time I've seen that one....

    Is when the company couldn't produce the (previous) paperwork.



    -Bug-
     
  11. RonBurgandy??????????

    RonBurgandy?????????? God is Great, beer is good , People are crazy.

    Yea ,One involved company not following proper procedures on the second termination The other was a very well liked employee who they gave yet another chance.
     
  12. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    It happens.

    Hey....

    He is a happy drunk, not a mean one. :biggrin:



    -Bug-
     
  13. ski or die

    ski or die Ski or Die

    Great! My wife seen this, and made me sign a "Last Chance Agreement".
     
  14. UPSmechanicinblue

    UPSmechanicinblue Active Member

    seen the last chance agreement for poor attendance, excess accidents and two for time card falsifications. None of them made it. Not not sure if agreement was 9 months or 1 year. They didn't even get a local level hearing after violation.
     
  15. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 ahhh....the mouth breathers

    Yeah...the last last chance agreement...lol
     
  16. member6045

    member6045 Active Member

    Attendance?? Accidents! 804 members are screwed. The company will be bringing all these type cases to us!! ??? What local started this! Why isn't it in our contracts? And isn't this a separate agreement.
     
  17. UPSmechanicinblue

    UPSmechanicinblue Active Member

    local 337 use to be 339 one was done at the state panel
     
  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I don't believe there is a time limit on last chance agreements.
     
  19. UPSmechanicinblue

    UPSmechanicinblue Active Member

    another was different local for exceeding personal time, seems all where very excessively warned before they got to the situation to where they decided to sign the agreement.
     
  20. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    By the time they are offered a last chance agreement the hourly in question has already secured the noose around their own neck. All that is left is someone slapping the horse on the ass to seal the deal.