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<blockquote data-quote="UnconTROLLed" data-source="post: 767750" data-attributes="member: 18708"><p>My father is a transportation manager at a very large company (he oversees thousands of drivers/line workers, and several regional mgrs for an energy company). His opinion is that I (and we) are very lucky to have a union, because many of us would not have jobs right now without it . I do not take offense to this , but it is reality and I do not care who you are.</p><p></p><p>Upstate, your 30-year driver post you just made is back patting at it's worst. C'mon, just admit that you clearly were referring to yourself in that group even if you are only 20 years for ex, but left that up to the reader to make that conclusion. </p><p></p><p>The truth: even if you NEVER need the union, union involvement still affects every employee regardless of whether or not you have problems. The companys decision making process is not the same had it been non-union, for ex. </p><p></p><p>To say you are special ( which indirectly , you tend to) because you do not support the union and do not rely on the union, and THIS is how to handle yourself in the workplace, is a major flaw in thinking and basically garbage, iMO. It is simply impossible to say with certainty. Because, at UPS, you have never NOT been outside a "mostly" union environment and do not know whether or not YOUR choices and actions would have taken you down a different path with a different company.</p><p></p><p>Bottom line: being a selfish UPS'er is your perrogative, however quickly lose sight of what enables you to be so selfish and still get by.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UnconTROLLed, post: 767750, member: 18708"] My father is a transportation manager at a very large company (he oversees thousands of drivers/line workers, and several regional mgrs for an energy company). His opinion is that I (and we) are very lucky to have a union, because many of us would not have jobs right now without it . I do not take offense to this , but it is reality and I do not care who you are. Upstate, your 30-year driver post you just made is back patting at it's worst. C'mon, just admit that you clearly were referring to yourself in that group even if you are only 20 years for ex, but left that up to the reader to make that conclusion. The truth: even if you NEVER need the union, union involvement still affects every employee regardless of whether or not you have problems. The companys decision making process is not the same had it been non-union, for ex. To say you are special ( which indirectly , you tend to) because you do not support the union and do not rely on the union, and THIS is how to handle yourself in the workplace, is a major flaw in thinking and basically garbage, iMO. It is simply impossible to say with certainty. Because, at UPS, you have never NOT been outside a "mostly" union environment and do not know whether or not YOUR choices and actions would have taken you down a different path with a different company. Bottom line: being a selfish UPS'er is your perrogative, however quickly lose sight of what enables you to be so selfish and still get by. [/QUOTE]
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