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<blockquote data-quote="Jones" data-source="post: 102225" data-attributes="member: 4805"><p>Mac, you are absolutley correct in your assesment that noone will ever come close to understanding the problems in the Middle East through watching the nightly news. Or reading the Op-ed pages for that matter.</p><p> Anytime you hear some pundit start talking about "what we need to do" to solve the problems (this lead-in is generally followed by a solution that depends prominently on killing some Arabs) you can go ahead and hit the mute button, because it's a guarantee they have no clue.</p><p></p><p> One of the drawbacks to doing some extensive reading on the history of the region is that as you start to get a grasp of how complex it is and how deeply rooted and entangled most of the serious problems are, they can start to seem almost insurmountable. It's a case where having a better understanding can often leave you a lot less certain as to what the best solution is.</p><p></p><p> One thing <strong>is</strong> for certain, labeling Hamas and Hezbollah as terrorist groups and refusing to talk to them on that basis is practically a guarantee that you will never resolve either the Israeli/Palestinian problem or the situation in Lebanon. I give the Bush administration some credit for being pragmatic about this as, despite their rhetoric, Condi Rice spent 45 minutes today meeting privately with the Hezbollah leader in the Lebanese Parliament.</p><p></p><p> I don't know what you've been reading, but if you want an exceptionally well written primer you can't go with Thomas Friedman's </p><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385413726/sr=8-3/qid=1153775708/ref=pd_bbs_3/102-9185324-0552947?ie=UTF8" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385413726/sr=8-3/qid=1153775708/ref=pd_bbs_3/102-9185324-0552947?ie=UTF8</a><em> From Beirut to Jerusalem</em>.</p><p></p><p> From some of your other posts it sounds like you might be like <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0805075593/sr=1-3/qid=1153776165/ref=pd_bbs_3/102-9185324-0552947?ie=UTF8&s=books" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0805075593/sr=1-3/qid=1153776165/ref=pd_bbs_3/102-9185324-0552947?ie=UTF8&s=books</a> Chalmers Johnson, if you haven't been reading him already.......</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jones, post: 102225, member: 4805"] Mac, you are absolutley correct in your assesment that noone will ever come close to understanding the problems in the Middle East through watching the nightly news. Or reading the Op-ed pages for that matter. Anytime you hear some pundit start talking about "what we need to do" to solve the problems (this lead-in is generally followed by a solution that depends prominently on killing some Arabs) you can go ahead and hit the mute button, because it's a guarantee they have no clue. One of the drawbacks to doing some extensive reading on the history of the region is that as you start to get a grasp of how complex it is and how deeply rooted and entangled most of the serious problems are, they can start to seem almost insurmountable. It's a case where having a better understanding can often leave you a lot less certain as to what the best solution is. One thing [B]is[/B] for certain, labeling Hamas and Hezbollah as terrorist groups and refusing to talk to them on that basis is practically a guarantee that you will never resolve either the Israeli/Palestinian problem or the situation in Lebanon. I give the Bush administration some credit for being pragmatic about this as, despite their rhetoric, Condi Rice spent 45 minutes today meeting privately with the Hezbollah leader in the Lebanese Parliament. I don't know what you've been reading, but if you want an exceptionally well written primer you can't go with Thomas Friedman's [url]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385413726/sr=8-3/qid=1153775708/ref=pd_bbs_3/102-9185324-0552947?ie=UTF8[/url][I] From Beirut to Jerusalem[/I]. From some of your other posts it sounds like you might be like [url]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0805075593/sr=1-3/qid=1153776165/ref=pd_bbs_3/102-9185324-0552947?ie=UTF8&s=books[/url] Chalmers Johnson, if you haven't been reading him already....... [/QUOTE]
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