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<blockquote data-quote="Sammie" data-source="post: 211055" data-attributes="member: 8657"><p>Sammie<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">IMO - </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">360 million Arabians are led by oppressive dictators, who sponsor half of the world’s terrorist groups and pose a threat to the Middle East’s one democracy, Israel, by refusing to recognize it’s right to exist.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>That's a pretty broad statement that I'm sure is offensive to alot of peaceful Arabs/Muslims worldwide.</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">No one said they weren't peaceful! But the simple fact remains. <em>Arabs who live in the Middle East are oppressed.</em> How is that offensive? </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">But perhaps as a gentleman you don't consider offensive the fact that in some areas there, battered women can't file for divorce without the testimony of an eye witness. Women can lose custody of their children for very arbitrary reasons. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">In Jordan, women who are thought to have "dishonored" their families</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">have been beaten, shot, or stabbed to death (honor killings) by their family members. The penal code in Jordon condones these killings.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Most of those countries have no laws to penalize domestic violence, though it's widespread.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Women's rights to vote, to get a passport, to marry, to work, or to travel is granted only with permission from her spouse or other male family member. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">In Egypt and Bahrain, wives must get permission from their spouses before they can leave the country.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">And the forced marriages, the imposing of the Islamic dress code, the polygamy, the female circumcisions...</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Maybe you and I have different opinions of what "offensive" might mean...</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">And as to your other responses, we simply agree to disagree...</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sammie, post: 211055, member: 8657"] Sammie[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]IMO - [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]360 million Arabians are led by oppressive dictators, who sponsor half of the world’s terrorist groups and pose a threat to the Middle East’s one democracy, Israel, by refusing to recognize it’s right to exist.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][B]That's a pretty broad statement that I'm sure is offensive to alot of peaceful Arabs/Muslims worldwide.[/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [B][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/B] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]No one said they weren't peaceful! But the simple fact remains. [I]Arabs who live in the Middle East are oppressed.[/I] How is that offensive? [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]But perhaps as a gentleman you don't consider offensive the fact that in some areas there, battered women can't file for divorce without the testimony of an eye witness. Women can lose custody of their children for very arbitrary reasons. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]In Jordan, women who are thought to have "dishonored" their families[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]have been beaten, shot, or stabbed to death (honor killings) by their family members. The penal code in Jordon condones these killings.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Most of those countries have no laws to penalize domestic violence, though it's widespread.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Women's rights to vote, to get a passport, to marry, to work, or to travel is granted only with permission from her spouse or other male family member. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]In Egypt and Bahrain, wives must get permission from their spouses before they can leave the country.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]And the forced marriages, the imposing of the Islamic dress code, the polygamy, the female circumcisions...[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Maybe you and I have different opinions of what "offensive" might mean...[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]And as to your other responses, we simply agree to disagree...[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [B][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/B] [/QUOTE]
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