MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Exactly. Just don't let your eyes meet theirs, or you're fired.
Liberal Hypocrisy: Hating the rich
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Exactly. Just don't let your eyes meet theirs, or you're fired.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
Stop your whining and form a union.
wkmac
Well-Known Member
The biggest job creators don't come from the so-called class of the rich. Secondly, the real job creators that are small and medium business are middle class and many came from the lower class having worked their way up. Often among the ranks themselves and thus having the skill sets on how to run the business from all sides. Sound familiar old time UPSers?
Does anyone here think that Jim Casey was living the life of luxury when he founded UPS and even when it became much bigger, he still maintained a frugal lifestyle to the point that his salary was of modest means especially compared to the salary levels of today's CEO's and Board Chairman. And I'd take Casey over anyone out there today.
IMO, the political left in this country have been completely wrong to blindly attack this phantom as a narrative while the political right in this country have been completely wrong to blindly defend it.
Does anyone here think that Jim Casey was living the life of luxury when he founded UPS and even when it became much bigger, he still maintained a frugal lifestyle to the point that his salary was of modest means especially compared to the salary levels of today's CEO's and Board Chairman. And I'd take Casey over anyone out there today.
IMO, the political left in this country have been completely wrong to blindly attack this phantom as a narrative while the political right in this country have been completely wrong to blindly defend it.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
Where did you come up with this theory?
you could opt to quote my posts that reflect this if you wanted to (there are only around 6 or 7 in the past few days..)
Nice strawman argument!
UnconTROLLed
perfection
Frederick Smith is a neat guy
UnconTROLLed
perfection
I agree, some people are envious. Most people are not envious.
UPS Lifer
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Here we go again - You subscribe to "you didn't build it" - You have no problem paying for programs we pay for by borrowing money from China.
You and BO - Spin spin spin! Where did I say to stop anything you said.... where did I say we have a choice - more tips or more loans and bridges? Talk about ridiculous!!
Read the post again and read what it says instead of trying to spin and diminish what I am saying. What a joke. Typical liberal underhanded character assassination!
WE NEED TO PAY FOR THESE AREAS THROUGH ELIMINATION OF INEFFICIENT GOVERNMENT AND A BALANCED BUDGET.
This is another reason nothing gets done with a liberal agenda - Attack with divisive rhetoric rather than work together to come up with solutions.
You have good teachers - Nancy Pelosi - Debbie Wasserman - Ms Cutter - Harry Reid - Chris Mathews - Rachel Maddow - David Axelrod - and the spinner-in-chief - BO.
They make a tasty glass of kool-aid.
UPS Lifer
Well-Known Member
AJ,
You can't put a number on this with the average person. I guess you could use the number that seems to crop up all the time - those folks earning over $250,000. But what about people who have a high net worth, where do they figure in.
Without defining a number and staying with material wealth - I kind of define rich as the ability to - buy anything you want - travel anywhere you want - live anywhere you want, etc.
In other words - financial independence.
wkmac
Well-Known Member
$250k IMO is middle class and I agree to be so-called rich would be in the 8 or 9 figure range at a minimum thus making your point about the ability to buy anything at anytime. Most efforts to tax or regulate the so-called rich have always backfired because "the rich" are connected to directly lobby gov't for special considerations and can afford the legal structure to take advantage. These draconian measures thus don't have the intended effect but they trickle down so that the rest of us end up footing the bill and often at a harsher reality than originally intended. Even if they do work, those taxes are then built into the so-called rich business model and then the goods and services purchased by the consumer end up paying the tax anyway as a cost of doing business. We so-called non rich don't have the means nor is the law written to grant us relief or consideration so we will always pay any tax. The "more taxes is the solution" crowd scream about trickle down and yet their own actions prime that very pump.. IMO this has been how the whole tax system has turned upside down in the first place.
The income tax in the beginning was only on about 1% of the population of a high income nature or foreign income and capped at 5% but look at where it is at today.
Buddybrown
Well-Known Member
----This is what they do and when you call them on it they say you're hateful. It's like dealing with children---Like the analogy Romney used with Obama last night in where he compared his boys possibly telling a lie and Obama lying about the 5 trillion, over and over again---Classic---!!
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
You're never going to be rich, but you think you are. Keep pulling on those bootstraps and see where you get when your union job disappears under Romney.
UPS Lifer
Well-Known Member
Hardliner - Socialistic beliefs. - If people like you ran the company, it would be bankrupt and you would be flipping burgers somewhere!
Let's make it simple for you to understand - strangle hold on capitalism, companies go broke, people lose jobs that includes unions. No jobs = no tax revenue = no government union jobs either.
I remember talking to some senior drivers who wanted to go on strike. What a hardliner does not get is that by squeezing the company, they think there will be a few layoffs but it won't affect them. THEY HAVE SENIORITY! I am ranked # 5 in the center. What they fail to realize is that the company folds, there is no more money for a pension and your #5 SENIORITY gets you nothing special in the unemployment line.
Guess who suffers, your wife, & your kids.
If you haven't seen this in the market place over the past few years, than you are either brain dead or more than likely a hardliner socialist who thinks that obama is going to rescue him through more government handouts!
Good luck with that!
ajblakejr
Age quod agis
Ok.
Let us use 250,000 in income.
You are rich.
That could be a husband and wife working at the former GM plant in Janesville.
Let's pull away from the idea it is just a paycheck.
Let's make it the cash value of the entire paycheck.
Everything the employer needs to contribute to keep you working....his share of social security, his worker comp insurance, etc.
Hate me if you want; but do you have any idea how much money your paycheck is worth?
Let us use 250,000 in income.
You are rich.
That could be a husband and wife working at the former GM plant in Janesville.
Let's pull away from the idea it is just a paycheck.
Let's make it the cash value of the entire paycheck.
Everything the employer needs to contribute to keep you working....his share of social security, his worker comp insurance, etc.
Hate me if you want; but do you have any idea how much money your paycheck is worth?
ajblakejr
Age quod agis
Pizza joint for 5. $69. Food was ok. I guess. Having a blast though.
We went with the pre-paid meal plan but it still wasn't cheap, they're making a mint at that place. I bet your kids are loving life right now though.
Yeah, we all are. But I gotta say, with the extent to which the staff here do all they can for people, I almost don't mind the cost,
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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When we went there we stayed in Buena Vista. The hotel let our kids eat for free if at least one of was also eating. We would have large breakfasts and dinners and would try to avoid eating at Disney.
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