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<blockquote data-quote="959Nanook" data-source="post: 1023265" data-attributes="member: 14462"><p>*shakes head* You came on here and made the claim yet have not offered a singular FT job that makes more than an average top-scale UPS driver (that you don't need a high school diploma or DL) much less any indication whatsoever of "lots". What I can easily Google for you is the average weekly earnings of someone with less than a high school diploma ($451 in 2011 according to the BLS) and a Master's Degree ($1,263 according to same source). We aren't even considering what average earnings are for less than high school diploma <u><strong>AND no DL</strong></u>. Seeing as average top-scale UPS driver makes well in excess of average worker with less than a high school diploma and many of us make more than average worker with a Master's Degree (not surprising, as I make more than my wife who has a Master's Degree and is a university professor), I am going to bet I will be surprised if there are "lots" of these jobs you are discussing. Interestingly, Googling "jobs that pay more than UPS", brought up a blog comparing UPS to Fedex that claims Fedex pays better job for job and discusses better starting vacation benefits but you still need. That is not surprising since it is pretty universally understood you start out making more at Fedex but you are better off in the long run at UPS if you don't cherish family time and money is important factor. </p><p></p><p>All the same, I am not necessarily giving a free pass to <strong>flipstyle9</strong>. I am acknowledging that it is more difficult for him than it was for many of us. More so from the sounds of it since it seems he hired on at UPS without a solid understanding of what he was getting into and boatloads of unreasonable expectations. I don't know what you expected <strong>flipstyle9</strong>; I hope you learn sooner than later that you should expect to go get another job to pay the bills because your UPS job probably ain't gonna cut it. I know it didn't cut it for me or those I support when I was a PTer and I was getting health benefits from peak season still when I hired on permanently as a PTer in February. </p><p></p><p>I will apologize to <strong>UpstateNYUPSer</strong> because I did not portray his posts in the most accurate manner. His posts were less advocating for two-tier pay scale and more his opinion that it may be coming down the pike. He did offer to accept a wage freeze if it goes to PTers in some other threads. I still think voting "Yes" for two-tier wage scale is selfish (regardless of the reason) and I am not willing to compromise on that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="959Nanook, post: 1023265, member: 14462"] *shakes head* You came on here and made the claim yet have not offered a singular FT job that makes more than an average top-scale UPS driver (that you don't need a high school diploma or DL) much less any indication whatsoever of "lots". What I can easily Google for you is the average weekly earnings of someone with less than a high school diploma ($451 in 2011 according to the BLS) and a Master's Degree ($1,263 according to same source). We aren't even considering what average earnings are for less than high school diploma [U][B]AND no DL[/B][/U]. Seeing as average top-scale UPS driver makes well in excess of average worker with less than a high school diploma and many of us make more than average worker with a Master's Degree (not surprising, as I make more than my wife who has a Master's Degree and is a university professor), I am going to bet I will be surprised if there are "lots" of these jobs you are discussing. Interestingly, Googling "jobs that pay more than UPS", brought up a blog comparing UPS to Fedex that claims Fedex pays better job for job and discusses better starting vacation benefits but you still need. That is not surprising since it is pretty universally understood you start out making more at Fedex but you are better off in the long run at UPS if you don't cherish family time and money is important factor. All the same, I am not necessarily giving a free pass to [B]flipstyle9[/B]. I am acknowledging that it is more difficult for him than it was for many of us. More so from the sounds of it since it seems he hired on at UPS without a solid understanding of what he was getting into and boatloads of unreasonable expectations. I don't know what you expected [B]flipstyle9[/B]; I hope you learn sooner than later that you should expect to go get another job to pay the bills because your UPS job probably ain't gonna cut it. I know it didn't cut it for me or those I support when I was a PTer and I was getting health benefits from peak season still when I hired on permanently as a PTer in February. I will apologize to [B]UpstateNYUPSer[/B] because I did not portray his posts in the most accurate manner. His posts were less advocating for two-tier pay scale and more his opinion that it may be coming down the pike. He did offer to accept a wage freeze if it goes to PTers in some other threads. I still think voting "Yes" for two-tier wage scale is selfish (regardless of the reason) and I am not willing to compromise on that. [/QUOTE]
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