Local 688

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by babboo25, Dec 14, 2013.

  1. babboo25

    babboo25 Member

    Was just reading article about 2nd feeder driver from Local 688 terminated and then getting his job back. They both had to get legal representation to get their jobs back. Says he was "shut out" of the grievance process. What a joke Local 688 is to allow this to happen in the first place. This would of never happened in local 705 or 710. 688 is a disgrace
     
  2. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    Where did you read that?
     
  3. babboo25

    babboo25 Member

    TDU.org, not a fan or member, but I do read their website occasionally.
     
  4. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    The problem is they never have anything good to say about the Union. They tend to stretch the truth also. I'm not saying it what they said in this case isn't true but based on their articles posts i would question it.
     
  5. babboo25

    babboo25 Member

    No its a fact
     
  6. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    What is a fact
     
  7. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    Are you in 688
     
  8. Just Lurking

    Just Lurking Member

    Our local president sits on the national negotiating committee. Also, I believe that he sits on national safety committee. One of the business agents sits on the JAC panel.
    My assumption is that gives TDU enough reasons not to like local 688.
     
  9. Just Lurking

    Just Lurking Member

    Just wanted to add that most of the feeder problems relate to a single feeder manager.

    Some would day that he not worthy:happy2: of the job.
     
  10. chuchu

    chuchu Guest

    The driver himself gives a testimony.

    The reason members go to TDU for support or info (in my opinion) is because they feel that they aren't getting the support and info that they need from their local and/or the IBT.

    That's what makes TDU a viable option.
     
  11. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Or at least a burr in the butt of the IBT chieftains.
     
  12. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    The 2 guys you referenced are both really good guys and you are correct if the are union officials TDU hates them
     
  13. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    The question/problem is you read an article about it and a group wrongfully bashes 688 when the only people that know what happened were in the hearing. We don't know what happened for sure. Why don't that group ever put on their site all of the good things the union does. They could come up with one I'm sure. 688 guys are good guys
     
  14. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    I do t see any issue with questioning anything but their leader isn't union and when he/they have issue why not help with suggestions instead of just criticism
     
  15. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Unfortunately, this "phenomenon" manifests itself on both sides of the fence.
    You yourself are guilty in the above quoted post.
    While you proclaim that "only the people in the hearing" know the truth, you don't know that the source for TDU wasn't someone who was in the hearing, yet you label it as "wrongfully" bashing?
    I'm not pro or anti-TDU and agree that they stray from reality at times.
    But with that being said, I watch most IBT hardliners immediately label and dismiss anybody who has a contrary viewpoint as a TDU heretic.
    I look at it this way, if there wasn't something to their teachings, TDU would have went to the wayside long ago much like APWA.
    Yet TDU persists and grows stronger in the wake perceived weakness, propagated by a lack of trust in the members by the IBT in the form of truthful, timely and accurate information.
    Many Teamsters feel as if we aren't being given all the information we need, when we need it, to make the decisions that will shape our futures.
    In a society predicated on a system of checks and balances, TDU for me, provides a counterpoint not be taken as gospel, rather considered amongst the plethora of information and misinformation available to me.
     
  16. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    Of course, until you find out what they really are.
     
  17. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    Your inference is way off base. Have you ever met any official from L688? I didn't think so. You may have legit issues with your leadership but extending that disappointment to others is weak. L688 has top notch leadership and unlike you, I have already found out
    "what they really are".
     
  18. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    In my opinion the reason they haven't gone by the wayside long ago is a lot of people like to hear the negative. It makes news sooooo much better than hearing all the good. I would love to know who actually wrote the article on TDU to see if they were in the hearing at the local level or JAC hearing.
    You forgot to read my post #14.
    When members didn't get the information hall apologized and took responsibility then they sent out a lot of information TDU stated the information was rammed through and the IBT spend millions on literature and DVD's.

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  19. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    OK, thanks Dad.

    My post wasn't an invitation to debate the contract again, nor was it intended to extend to you another opportunity to "OUT MY IDENTITY" on this anonymous internet forum.

    Look; you claim to know me and to see me during your workday, therefore you must know that I am a long time steward in your building?
    So how is it, that you think, I can't relate with: "what it is actually like for people to constantly criticize but never help out or even have a solution to get the issues fixed"?
    I get a taste of that turd-burger everyday!!!

    So do me a favor Pal, if you have anymore to say to me as somebody other than an anonymous internet poster, grab your :censored2: and look me in the eye when you say it.
    When you're finished, and after you wash your hands, maybe we'll shake on it.
    If not, we could always go up the street and talk about it over a cup of coffee.
     
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  20. chuchu

    chuchu Guest

    hall had to apologize for the way they botched the clarity and content of the first round. They were caught with their pants down on some of those articles and the ASSumption that we'd swallow the hook, line and sinker.

    TDU actually gave credit to the IBT and hall for enhancing the benedits and for the conference call by hall explaining the benefits more comprehensively.

    There's a lot of negative PR on TDU but then there's a lot to this TA thats negative.

    We do have to move on.
     
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