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<blockquote data-quote="PiedmontSteward" data-source="post: 1199510" data-attributes="member: 42270"><p>The panel system isn't ideal, but it's still leaps and bounds better than <strong>anything</strong> a non-union employee will <strong>ever</strong> get. The primary reason it takes so long to have a case heard at panel is how the company/labor manager will string the case out to deliberately keep the member out of work until the next monthly panel; typically, you can only get a case docketed 10 days before the panel is slated to have a session. This works in the company's favor by giving them time to compile a better case and by making the affected member grow desperate enough to potentially be willing to sign a last-and-final agreement or trip up when being questioned at panel. Quite frankly (and this goes doubly so if you're FT), if you can't afford to be out of work for the month to month and a half it might take to get to panel, then you're doing something wrong with your finances.</p><p></p><p>As far as back pay goes, it honestly depends on how bad the company <img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />ed up. Very rarely is a labor manager (in my experience, our area LM is a hardass) going to agree to back pay without the imminent threat of taking a case to panel that he's all-but-guaranteed to lose. If the member is at fault, but not quite at fault to the level wherein (in the arbitrator's view) they deserve to lose their job, they won't receive anything. If it's a case of the division manager having an ax to grind and that's clear, then they'll probably be made whole. However, as Inthegame says above, almost no one will take that chance if they're offered their job back (with the exception of a BS last and final agreement, which I've been seeing offered more and more lately..) at the center/local level meeting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PiedmontSteward, post: 1199510, member: 42270"] The panel system isn't ideal, but it's still leaps and bounds better than [B]anything[/B] a non-union employee will [B]ever[/B] get. The primary reason it takes so long to have a case heard at panel is how the company/labor manager will string the case out to deliberately keep the member out of work until the next monthly panel; typically, you can only get a case docketed 10 days before the panel is slated to have a session. This works in the company's favor by giving them time to compile a better case and by making the affected member grow desperate enough to potentially be willing to sign a last-and-final agreement or trip up when being questioned at panel. Quite frankly (and this goes doubly so if you're FT), if you can't afford to be out of work for the month to month and a half it might take to get to panel, then you're doing something wrong with your finances. As far as back pay goes, it honestly depends on how bad the company [IMG]*[/IMG][IMG]*[/IMG][IMG]*[/IMG][IMG]*[/IMG]ed up. Very rarely is a labor manager (in my experience, our area LM is a hardass) going to agree to back pay without the imminent threat of taking a case to panel that he's all-but-guaranteed to lose. If the member is at fault, but not quite at fault to the level wherein (in the arbitrator's view) they deserve to lose their job, they won't receive anything. If it's a case of the division manager having an ax to grind and that's clear, then they'll probably be made whole. However, as Inthegame says above, almost no one will take that chance if they're offered their job back (with the exception of a BS last and final agreement, which I've been seeing offered more and more lately..) at the center/local level meeting. [/QUOTE]
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