Local Unions Against TA and Local TA's???

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by RealPerson, May 16, 2013.

  1. RealPerson

    RealPerson Active Member

    Be nice to have a list, so we can show others who all is Voting NO, so people just don't think it is a few individuals.

    Teamsters Local 89
     
  2. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Troll Troll

    So far, in local 396- southern california, we are a solid NO VOTE. Part timers are being informed everyday, feeder is on board, Package is unified. Of course, we have to those members who will do whatever the local tells them as long as there is a HAT, or JACKET given to them.

    We are working everyday to inform our entire membership of the NO VOTE intention.

    Peace

    TOS
     
  3. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    Add local 89 to the small but hopefully growing list.
     
  4. TimeForChange

    TimeForChange Active Member

    Right, TOS. But there can be a difference between what the members seem to want, and what the Local Union Executive Board recommends. So until Ron H announces his recommendation, you can't say that 396 is against the TA.
     
  5. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Troll Troll

    RON H works for US! We dont work for HIM. Dont ever forget that. It matters NOT what "HE" wants, the membership gives the instructions in 396. "HE" may not like it, but "HE" went along with this crap contract proposal and brought it to us. "WE" will reject it and send him back to hall/HOFFA to explain why he couldnt sell it to us.

    THIS is what the membership is about. He represents "US", "WE" dont represent "HIM".

    "HE" doesnt work for UPS, "HE" works for "US" as "WE" work for UPS with a contract that affects "US" directly.

    "HE" knew going into last weeks meeting in D.C. that "WE" didnt like the proposal when it was announced, but "HE" plays the game and votes with the majority with complete disregard for the membership.

    "HE" will find that out shortly when he schedules a contract meeting, if "HE" has the "BALLS" to do so.

    Peace

    TOS
     
  6. Michael Collins

    Michael Collins New Member

    Poor Ron. Wonder if he will taste like chicken?
     
  7. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    So we have local 89 and 384 recommending no votes. I heard that 952 in So Cal leadership was being yelled at by the membership for recommending a yes vote against a majority of the local.
     
  8. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    A no from 384. Heard it at meeting today.

    Things continue down this path it could get ugly.

    Anyone care to give the definition of union?????!!
     
  9. TimeForChange

    TimeForChange Active Member

    Based on posts here on browncafe, and based on posts on the "Vote No on UPS Contract" facebook page, https://www.facebook.com/groups/161346104027154/?fref=ts here is what I see so far:

    Local officers recommending a YES vote on the national TA:
    707
    623
    952

    Local officers recommending a NO vote on the national TA:
    89
    384
    804
    30
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2013
  10. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    So how did it go from UNANIMOUS on May 7th in Washington DC to 4 locals (at present) recommending NO votes? That much changes in just 16 days?
     
  11. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member


    I would guess one of two factors, or both:

    1) They were unaware of the exact wording and coverage.
    2) Locals started to see the members getting worked up and upset over contract. Local decided, in respect of their future, it was in their best interest to align with the rank of file of their respected local. Wouldn't want to loose a seat on the locals board.
     
  12. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member


    ​Different audiences ... all Union officials are politicians.
     
  13. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    Hoax, still feel that this contract will pass with a large margin?

    Not being smart, just wondering.
     
  14. wish i was 65

    wish i was 65 New Member

    At local 384 PT more upset about the Health Care change. E-board says vote no on master yes on sup. Ups Fr meeting at 1PM no vote on UPS Fr contract too
     
  15. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    I guess everyone who said yes but didn't really approve is a pusillanimous?
     
  16. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    I still think it will.
    Been through too many ... Until it changes, I'll stick with history.
     
  17. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    Or maybe those who are a yes vote just want to suck hall/Hoffa's brown hole.
     
  18. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    It's always like this. People talk a tough game.
     
  19. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Maybe but I'm willing to bet they were scared or they knew it was a good deal.
     
  20. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    Who knows. All I can say, I feel as though this contract is not in my best interest.