Here's my story...
I'm a full-time driver with a seniority date of 7/5/06. I made my full progression January 5, 2009. (2 1/2 years). Yesterday (Friday) I was notified along with 4 others from our Metro Sup that we are laid off and "bumped" inside. The metro sup then asked who will be working the pre-load and/or local sort? My response was, "you owe us friend/t drivers (out of progression), 8 straight hours. No response. I sent another message similiar. Their response, "we're offering only morning and night shifts to get your guaranteed 8 hours". I responded again with the "8 straight" entitlement. My cell rang...my metro sup! "I've been reading through the contract, we don't owe you 8 straight. We guarantee you 8 hours...but you were hired AFTER 1993, therefor you are not entitled to 8 straight."
I then contacted my steward..."they're wrong" he said. So myself, along with the other 4, have filed grievences for working 8 straight hours. As we return to the building, our steward tells us...we'll fight for 8 straight, until then do what they ask. That's fine...we all can play the game. So...we all booked into the pre-load then local-sort to get our 8 hours.
Then the subject of pay comes up. Over 90% of the drivers talking all said "when you're out of progression, they can't bump your pay." The other 10% say..."you'll get bumped to TOP inside rate." Our steward says they're all wrong. The Union Hall informed him that...WE WILL GO INSIDE AT THE SAME RATE WE STARTED AT WHEN FIRST HIRED AS PART TIMERS, PLUS .35 CENTS. Well, that figures out to be pennies. Approx an $18 hour pay CUT! And what that also means (if that's the case) is that drivers that had started with UPS EARLIER, will be getting LESS due to the fact "starting pay" was LESS at their time of hire! It makes NO SENSE! My union is telling me that I'm actually going to go inside as a laid off friend/T driver and make LESS than ANYONE on our part time shifts!!?? We don't have ONE employee that makes as little as I did when I started 3 years ago! Any input or help with this???
The Union also informs us that UPS is fighting with all they have to keep us OUT of 8 straight hours. If we work 8 straight, we'll get our drivers pay due to the fact that we'll drive for 4 hours after the pre-load, or before the local-sort...whichever shift we're on. When you drive...you get drivers pay for the whole day worked. Makes sense. So as long as they keep us out of the 8 straight deal...they have cut payroll tremendously.
And last but NOT least...
Last year our center had a huge layoff due to OTHER friend/T drivers from ANOTHER center (with more seniority than us in progression) transferring to our center for driving jobs. I was in progression, so had no say in the layoff. I (and others) were told "we owe those drivers 8 straight hours. They have the right to go anywhere in the state to drive. Sorry you guys in progression loose out...but we got to give them 8 straight, they're out of progression". The very SAME center that SENT the drivers to our building had 5 drivers retire. 2 bids got hung up for replacement of those jobs. 1 driver originally from that center (working out his progression in ours until he can bid back) actually got to go back EARLY due to lack of drivers in that building. No problem. He has LESS seniority than 2 of the "laid off" drivers in our building. We ask our sups..."is he driving? If so...we'll go there to drive because of seniority". "Yes he is...they're so understaffed, sups are pulling runs!" our manager told us. The very same metro sup who had laid us off 1 hour earlier! We are then told to report to that center at 8:30am Monday. No problem...problem solved! Nope! 2 hours later...the same sup calls us back and says..."no one is going there...they've laid the other driver off also...and will be using their OWN personel." ***??!!
So...we go right back to the situation I stated earlier in my post. Bumped inside...and bumped pay. Grievences flying everywhere...and no answers (at least not consistant ones).
Any help? Info? Ideas?
Crowldog
I'm a full-time driver with a seniority date of 7/5/06. I made my full progression January 5, 2009. (2 1/2 years). Yesterday (Friday) I was notified along with 4 others from our Metro Sup that we are laid off and "bumped" inside. The metro sup then asked who will be working the pre-load and/or local sort? My response was, "you owe us friend/t drivers (out of progression), 8 straight hours. No response. I sent another message similiar. Their response, "we're offering only morning and night shifts to get your guaranteed 8 hours". I responded again with the "8 straight" entitlement. My cell rang...my metro sup! "I've been reading through the contract, we don't owe you 8 straight. We guarantee you 8 hours...but you were hired AFTER 1993, therefor you are not entitled to 8 straight."
I then contacted my steward..."they're wrong" he said. So myself, along with the other 4, have filed grievences for working 8 straight hours. As we return to the building, our steward tells us...we'll fight for 8 straight, until then do what they ask. That's fine...we all can play the game. So...we all booked into the pre-load then local-sort to get our 8 hours.
Then the subject of pay comes up. Over 90% of the drivers talking all said "when you're out of progression, they can't bump your pay." The other 10% say..."you'll get bumped to TOP inside rate." Our steward says they're all wrong. The Union Hall informed him that...WE WILL GO INSIDE AT THE SAME RATE WE STARTED AT WHEN FIRST HIRED AS PART TIMERS, PLUS .35 CENTS. Well, that figures out to be pennies. Approx an $18 hour pay CUT! And what that also means (if that's the case) is that drivers that had started with UPS EARLIER, will be getting LESS due to the fact "starting pay" was LESS at their time of hire! It makes NO SENSE! My union is telling me that I'm actually going to go inside as a laid off friend/T driver and make LESS than ANYONE on our part time shifts!!?? We don't have ONE employee that makes as little as I did when I started 3 years ago! Any input or help with this???
The Union also informs us that UPS is fighting with all they have to keep us OUT of 8 straight hours. If we work 8 straight, we'll get our drivers pay due to the fact that we'll drive for 4 hours after the pre-load, or before the local-sort...whichever shift we're on. When you drive...you get drivers pay for the whole day worked. Makes sense. So as long as they keep us out of the 8 straight deal...they have cut payroll tremendously.
And last but NOT least...
Last year our center had a huge layoff due to OTHER friend/T drivers from ANOTHER center (with more seniority than us in progression) transferring to our center for driving jobs. I was in progression, so had no say in the layoff. I (and others) were told "we owe those drivers 8 straight hours. They have the right to go anywhere in the state to drive. Sorry you guys in progression loose out...but we got to give them 8 straight, they're out of progression". The very SAME center that SENT the drivers to our building had 5 drivers retire. 2 bids got hung up for replacement of those jobs. 1 driver originally from that center (working out his progression in ours until he can bid back) actually got to go back EARLY due to lack of drivers in that building. No problem. He has LESS seniority than 2 of the "laid off" drivers in our building. We ask our sups..."is he driving? If so...we'll go there to drive because of seniority". "Yes he is...they're so understaffed, sups are pulling runs!" our manager told us. The very same metro sup who had laid us off 1 hour earlier! We are then told to report to that center at 8:30am Monday. No problem...problem solved! Nope! 2 hours later...the same sup calls us back and says..."no one is going there...they've laid the other driver off also...and will be using their OWN personel." ***??!!
So...we go right back to the situation I stated earlier in my post. Bumped inside...and bumped pay. Grievences flying everywhere...and no answers (at least not consistant ones).
Any help? Info? Ideas?
Crowldog