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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 801283" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Hmmmmm! Tip of the Iceberg.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>See <a href="http://motherjones.com/politics/1995/07/dwaynes-world" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">Dwayne's World </span></a><span style="color: red"><span style="color: #000000">circa 1995' and see how gov't does a good job of regulation to keep those evil pirate Free Market types from dominating the marketplace. Take away ADM's State Privilege and profit subsidy and then just how much of a market force are they really? As for Microsoft, what happens to them if you end the state privilege of <a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2009/1208/p09s06-coop.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">copyright and IP protection</span> </a>given at the expense of the taxpayer paid enforcement rather than at the expense of Microsoft's pockets?</span></span></p><p> </p><p>And just as an aside, let's really and seriously end welfare and cut off the <a href="http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-241.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">true welfare queens</span> </a>in America! And I don't ignore something <a href="http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/the-distorting-effects-of-transportation-subsidies/" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">near and dear to our own hearts</span> </a>either. Gee, I wonder what would happen to the middle class and the small and even medium manufacturing base if cutting out these welfare queens did begin to happen? Wonder what would happen to small and medium family farms as opposed to what happened to them especially in the 1980's and 1990's? It was that evil, aweful estate tax that did it! Would Pop's Hardware and Drucker's store have survived <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/23/news/fortune500/retail_eminentdomain/" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">Home Depot</span></a> and <a href="http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/independent_business/walmart_eminent_domain.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">Walmart</span></a> had Pop's and Drucker been given the same state benefits from such things as eminent domain abuse, special roads and traffic treatments and even special tax breaks and consideration? If one didn't know better, seems to me that Pop's and Drucker were overrun but Bolshevik forces of <a href="http://c4ss.org/content/5828" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">State Capitalism</span></a>.</p><p> </p><p>And there is an <a href="http://www.mutualist.org/id4.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">"Iron Fist Behind the Invisible Hand."</span></a> since you brought up the iron fist.</p><p> </p><p>As for ADM's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwayne_Andreas" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">Dwayne Andreas</span></a>, afterall he was being truthful and honest about those Bolshevik forces but then he does have our nickel (or at least a whole lot of our nickels) in his pocket and odds are we'll do nothing to take it back other than to utter the mantra, what's good for Corp. America is good for Americans! Wonder if the average Russian ever said, "What's good for the Bolsheviks is good for us Russians!" Gee, how'd that play out?</p><p> </p><p>And in a true free market, there is no state mandating a medium of exchange or legal tender laws so money as power becomes very complicated as no monopoly exists that allows the manipulation or the force. Don't like the terms, you just bolt to another form of medium of exchange between market actors and the power of manipulation vanishes like a fart in the wind. Wonder why someone would dare suggest "Ending the Fed?"</p><p> </p><p>I'll leave the horse hockey there and leave you this new name in more current lore to consider in the ADM tradition, Goldman Sachs!</p><p> </p><p>BTW: Think of the links as Footnotes unless you have something against footnotes? If you don't read them, this just meant you were never intended to read in the first place so it's all cool! It's a fate thing.</p><p> </p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 801283, member: 2189"] Hmmmmm! Tip of the Iceberg. See [URL="http://motherjones.com/politics/1995/07/dwaynes-world"][COLOR=red]Dwayne's World [/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=red][COLOR=#000000]circa 1995' and see how gov't does a good job of regulation to keep those evil pirate Free Market types from dominating the marketplace. Take away ADM's State Privilege and profit subsidy and then just how much of a market force are they really? As for Microsoft, what happens to them if you end the state privilege of [URL="http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2009/1208/p09s06-coop.html"][COLOR=red]copyright and IP protection[/COLOR] [/URL]given at the expense of the taxpayer paid enforcement rather than at the expense of Microsoft's pockets?[/COLOR][/COLOR] And just as an aside, let's really and seriously end welfare and cut off the [URL="http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-241.html"][COLOR=red]true welfare queens[/COLOR] [/URL]in America! And I don't ignore something [URL="http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/the-distorting-effects-of-transportation-subsidies/"][COLOR=red]near and dear to our own hearts[/COLOR] [/URL]either. Gee, I wonder what would happen to the middle class and the small and even medium manufacturing base if cutting out these welfare queens did begin to happen? Wonder what would happen to small and medium family farms as opposed to what happened to them especially in the 1980's and 1990's? It was that evil, aweful estate tax that did it! Would Pop's Hardware and Drucker's store have survived [URL="http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/23/news/fortune500/retail_eminentdomain/"][COLOR=red]Home Depot[/COLOR][/URL] and [URL="http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/independent_business/walmart_eminent_domain.html"][COLOR=red]Walmart[/COLOR][/URL] had Pop's and Drucker been given the same state benefits from such things as eminent domain abuse, special roads and traffic treatments and even special tax breaks and consideration? If one didn't know better, seems to me that Pop's and Drucker were overrun but Bolshevik forces of [URL="http://c4ss.org/content/5828"][COLOR=red]State Capitalism[/COLOR][/URL]. And there is an [URL="http://www.mutualist.org/id4.html"][COLOR=red]"Iron Fist Behind the Invisible Hand."[/COLOR][/URL] since you brought up the iron fist. As for ADM's [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwayne_Andreas"][COLOR=red]Dwayne Andreas[/COLOR][/URL], afterall he was being truthful and honest about those Bolshevik forces but then he does have our nickel (or at least a whole lot of our nickels) in his pocket and odds are we'll do nothing to take it back other than to utter the mantra, what's good for Corp. America is good for Americans! Wonder if the average Russian ever said, "What's good for the Bolsheviks is good for us Russians!" Gee, how'd that play out? And in a true free market, there is no state mandating a medium of exchange or legal tender laws so money as power becomes very complicated as no monopoly exists that allows the manipulation or the force. Don't like the terms, you just bolt to another form of medium of exchange between market actors and the power of manipulation vanishes like a fart in the wind. Wonder why someone would dare suggest "Ending the Fed?" I'll leave the horse hockey there and leave you this new name in more current lore to consider in the ADM tradition, Goldman Sachs! BTW: Think of the links as Footnotes unless you have something against footnotes? If you don't read them, this just meant you were never intended to read in the first place so it's all cool! It's a fate thing. :wink2: :peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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