management changing time cards

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by brownproof, Sep 15, 2012.

  1. brownproof

    brownproof New Member

    I am a pre-loader. I am often asked to drive in the morning they send me home to change and shave. Since i am fairly new, I am always riding with a supervisor. The supervisor asks how much time i had off between preload and driver start time. It is usually around thirty minutes . After reviewing my time one week i found out my time was short. I took a 30 minute lunch with the sup. the sup. went into the system and changed my lunch from 30 min. to an hour. I thought this couldn't be the first time this has happened. Another supervisor had looked back and found out other times have been changed. I have told i would be compensated but i am :censored2: they would do that in the first place . I work as hard as i can every time i'm working and for them to do this i feel a betrayed. i haven't told any union stewart yet. And am looking for advice from anyone willing to give it. The biggest thing is i am begging to get my seniority as a cover driver and don't want to stir the pot too much because my main priority is to get my seniority and go full time.
     
  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Are you sure the sup wasn't simply adding the 30 minutes it takes you to go home and shave to the 30 minute lunch?

    Why don't you shave before work, change in the locker room and start right after preload?
     
  3. brownproof

    brownproof New Member

    I punch out from the preload to go home and get ready then punch back in with the diad when i get back to the building. I also never know when i am driving.
     
  4. OVERBOARD

    OVERBOARD Active Member

    Who has control of the Diad. R u entering the lunch time on the Daid or is the Sup. The sup could be entering a one hour lunch in the Diad and you are just taking 1/2 hour. Next time look to see what time is enter in the Diad.
     
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    If it were me I would keep my browns in my car, shave before work every day and tell my sup that I can run air if he needs me. There may be days when they can't wait for you to go home and shave and they use somebody else.
     
  6. brownproof

    brownproof New Member

    I am in control of the diad. That is how i found out my times have been changed. In the computer it shows the time the diad has punched for lunch and the times that have been manually changed at the computer.
     
  7. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    You are doing 2 different shifts. The time in between is dead time, not lunch.
     
  8. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I would first ask my sup for an explanation of the time card change. If he is unwilling to or if his explanation doesn't hold water I would file a grievance. Keep in mind that doing so may put an end to your air driving.
     
  9. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    That's what I thought--I figured the sup was combining the dead time and the lunch--the OP said he punches out after the preload and back in when he starts driving.
     
  10. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    I agree with bringing a uniform and a shaver to work. Don't even mention the "G" word, forget about any time you've already lost. No reason to stir the pot before you get seniority.
     
  11. brownproof

    brownproof New Member

    Thats fine then I wont drive. I am not asking for advice about how to keep them from cheating me. I am asking advice on how to deal with it.
     
  12. brownproof

    brownproof New Member

    I am not air driving. I am cover driving.
     
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    If you are cover driving you should definitely bring your browns everyday and change at work.

    I agree with Over---forget about the 30 minutes--you can make that up over the course of a week a few minutes at a time.:wink2:
     
  14. brownproof

    brownproof New Member

    this wasn't a one time occurrence. this has been happening over the last couple weeks averaging 30 min. average per incident.
     
  15. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    You need to talk to your supervisor.
     
  16. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    In your Area like mine your required to take a 1 hour lunch whether or not you take it or all of it is up to you in just needs to be in the board... If you work thought it or part of your giving the company back money. Next time your driving take your full lunch and don't do any work. If your with a SUP and he says lets only take a 30 minute lunch ask him if he is going to pay you for your other 30 minutes if he says no take the FULL hour and relax.....
     
  17. brownproof

    brownproof New Member

    I was told that my time off in the morning would be added to my lunch. and i did not need to take the full hour.
     
  18. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    All posters have great points. But changing a time card is illegal UNLESS it is changing it in some error.
     
  19. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Was your start time the time that you came back to the building or was it the same as the other drivers? If it was the same as the other drivers then your sup is correct--if it was the time you came back from changing then you sup is shorting you 30 minutes.
     
  20. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    Apparently you didn't explain to your SUP that you punched out when you went home to get changed. You have to have 1 hour in the DIAD for your lunch you didn't your SUP changed it....