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<blockquote data-quote="area43" data-source="post: 246642" data-attributes="member: 4862"><p>I say this in a respectful tone. It appears you are a newbie driver and yes there are poop birds to keep an eye on. Just to give you a little back ground before I proceed. Our center located in Virginia runs about 38 to 40 runs a day. Our center has been the best in the nation for a couple years and has been in the top 5 for many more. This is based on the centers size. Sales leads, production, etc, etc. Our center is in a highly conservative area. Virginia is a right to work state. I have mentioned that before. We have great drivers. Myself included. Ok having said that, BOTH of our opinions are based on our experiences at UPS. I believe we both agree on that. </p><p> </p><p>Great Drivers have been fired for stupid things. These are some examples in our center. One highly productive driver fired for running over a dog on a private driveway. Another Example. A highly productive driver fired for his snow chains marking up a drive way in the winter. Another Example. A highly productive driver fired for getting bit by a dog. Another Example. A highly produtive driver gets fired for getting hurt for lifting an over 70 lb. Should he have called a sup for some Teamster hourly help. Perphaps, but than he risks himself being put in the cross hairs. Another Example. A highly productive driver gets fired for missing a scan. Hmmm maybe deserving. I could go on, but I believe your starting to see my point. Great drivers gone bad. All these drivers got their jobs back due to the TEAMSTERS. UPS does the hiring of all its employees, but they choose to pay less on the part time rolls and now are getting what they pay for when it concerns poop birds. The part time pool is where UPS gets their drivers Can you blame UPS for their poor hiring practices, perphaps. Does the $$$ have alot to do with it. Maybe, its those pesky stock holders. Hey, Laid Back, maybe its all that freed up money UPS has laying around you and math have talked about. Back, Maybe UPS should give some of that laid back(freed up) money to the pt ers thus getting a higher quality work force. Thus getting better quality drivers. Who know's, but it sure appears that you do. Many pt's are paid way to low for the work they do. In our area all drivers are hired from the inside(part timers).</p><p> </p><p>Backlasher, In my 22 years I have seen many of "You" walk thru that door and think the same way your thinking. Basklasher you are human. I hope you never get hurt(on the job) and are out for a long period of time, because I have seen it all too often. Company doc's saying your ok to go back to work and you know your not ready. Im talking great drivers here, folks. Non-abusers. The Company is putting pressure on the doc to get you back on the line. Remember the stock price could be affected by you being out. TEAMSTERS, I know you don't like to hear it, but thats who will be in your corner. Many of the drivers in my center including myself started out like you. Yes, there has to be reason and sanity, but like you said it all comes down to the buck. I saw first hand how this company was before the stock. The Company has changed. Stock, frees up monies. Hmmmmm, is there a price to be paid for that? UPS had a mystic about itself. One was that it wasnt to be sold and bought like a cheap pair of shoes on the public auction block. Please ask my question. Only one question that has yet to be answered by any of the mgt or you on this site. Would our great Founder Jim Casey approve of our going public in 1999? Please don't side step the question by how much the stock has so call benefited our company. I know the text book answer you will give. Jim Casey, Yes or No.</p><p> </p><p>Another thing, Mgt should/try to treat all drivers the same. To treat drivers differently, such in your case Back can lead to big problems. Yes, you were willing to take your punishment. Mgt was wrong in not going thru with the punishment. Now, Im not going to be a hypocrite and say I wouldn't want to be let off too, but it can lead up to some serious problems.</p><p> </p><p>Also, "What have you done for me lately" is the motto of alot of sups. Remember every time we get a raise the standards Over/Under will be changed a tad. I know most of us are seeing that happening now. How do they change the standards? Well they make up this little worthless things called PAS. Come on. What a Joke. Whats it going to be the next raise. ASAP or PASA. LOL Whatever, I just made that up. Just like UPS did.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="area43, post: 246642, member: 4862"] I say this in a respectful tone. It appears you are a newbie driver and yes there are poop birds to keep an eye on. Just to give you a little back ground before I proceed. Our center located in Virginia runs about 38 to 40 runs a day. Our center has been the best in the nation for a couple years and has been in the top 5 for many more. This is based on the centers size. Sales leads, production, etc, etc. Our center is in a highly conservative area. Virginia is a right to work state. I have mentioned that before. We have great drivers. Myself included. Ok having said that, BOTH of our opinions are based on our experiences at UPS. I believe we both agree on that. Great Drivers have been fired for stupid things. These are some examples in our center. One highly productive driver fired for running over a dog on a private driveway. Another Example. A highly productive driver fired for his snow chains marking up a drive way in the winter. Another Example. A highly productive driver fired for getting bit by a dog. Another Example. A highly produtive driver gets fired for getting hurt for lifting an over 70 lb. Should he have called a sup for some Teamster hourly help. Perphaps, but than he risks himself being put in the cross hairs. Another Example. A highly productive driver gets fired for missing a scan. Hmmm maybe deserving. I could go on, but I believe your starting to see my point. Great drivers gone bad. All these drivers got their jobs back due to the TEAMSTERS. UPS does the hiring of all its employees, but they choose to pay less on the part time rolls and now are getting what they pay for when it concerns poop birds. The part time pool is where UPS gets their drivers Can you blame UPS for their poor hiring practices, perphaps. Does the $$$ have alot to do with it. Maybe, its those pesky stock holders. Hey, Laid Back, maybe its all that freed up money UPS has laying around you and math have talked about. Back, Maybe UPS should give some of that laid back(freed up) money to the pt ers thus getting a higher quality work force. Thus getting better quality drivers. Who know's, but it sure appears that you do. Many pt's are paid way to low for the work they do. In our area all drivers are hired from the inside(part timers). Backlasher, In my 22 years I have seen many of "You" walk thru that door and think the same way your thinking. Basklasher you are human. I hope you never get hurt(on the job) and are out for a long period of time, because I have seen it all too often. Company doc's saying your ok to go back to work and you know your not ready. Im talking great drivers here, folks. Non-abusers. The Company is putting pressure on the doc to get you back on the line. Remember the stock price could be affected by you being out. TEAMSTERS, I know you don't like to hear it, but thats who will be in your corner. Many of the drivers in my center including myself started out like you. Yes, there has to be reason and sanity, but like you said it all comes down to the buck. I saw first hand how this company was before the stock. The Company has changed. Stock, frees up monies. Hmmmmm, is there a price to be paid for that? UPS had a mystic about itself. One was that it wasnt to be sold and bought like a cheap pair of shoes on the public auction block. Please ask my question. Only one question that has yet to be answered by any of the mgt or you on this site. Would our great Founder Jim Casey approve of our going public in 1999? Please don't side step the question by how much the stock has so call benefited our company. I know the text book answer you will give. Jim Casey, Yes or No. Another thing, Mgt should/try to treat all drivers the same. To treat drivers differently, such in your case Back can lead to big problems. Yes, you were willing to take your punishment. Mgt was wrong in not going thru with the punishment. Now, Im not going to be a hypocrite and say I wouldn't want to be let off too, but it can lead up to some serious problems. Also, "What have you done for me lately" is the motto of alot of sups. Remember every time we get a raise the standards Over/Under will be changed a tad. I know most of us are seeing that happening now. How do they change the standards? Well they make up this little worthless things called PAS. Come on. What a Joke. Whats it going to be the next raise. ASAP or PASA. LOL Whatever, I just made that up. Just like UPS did. [/QUOTE]
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