management purposefully putting misloads in the package cars

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by coldworld, Aug 20, 2014.

  1. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    Just wondering if anybody has seen this happen..drivers or loaders..and if so what would be the proper course of action if it could be proven that it was happening.
     
  2. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 ahhh....the mouth breathers

    How do you know it was done intentionally...and not by mistake?
     
  3. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    Just asking a general question if anyone has seen this happen....If a package has no pal label how does it get into your car
     
  4. fres431

    fres431 Active Member

    If you are getting written up for missed loads just simply tell management that you're not the only one loading the trucks
     
  5. retiredTxfeeder

    retiredTxfeeder cap'n crunch

    Doesn't management salt in most every operation? They even do it in feeders.
     
  6. AndUPSER

    AndUPSER Active Member

    Hide the package under a load stand and they will search frantically for the package, tearing down walls looking through bags. Then pull it out when they're not looking and give the most innocent look.

    Eventually they will figure it out.
     
  7. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    Salt yes..but the salts usually don't go out on the cars...
     
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  8. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    You get to know your loader and the kind of misloads they do have...something out of the ordinary can be sometimes easy to spot. ..
     
  9. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 ahhh....the mouth breathers

    Years ago, we were salted daily. I haven't been salted in honestly...3 or 4 years.
     
  10. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    If drivers have questionable delivery practices,(rolling pkgs.,not attempting deliveries, etc.) it is a way to catch a driver for sure.they do salt in all operations though.
     
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  11. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    They follow this up with check-in audits.
     
  12. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 ahhh....the mouth breathers

    But still hard to prove sabotage...
     
  13. 1BROWNWRENCH

    1BROWNWRENCH Amatuer Malthusian

    Be thankful Automotive management hasn't attempted this method.
     
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  14. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    They salt reasonable misloads that can be delivered by you, without them being missed. No business or excessive miles. Easy fix, sheet everything, call everything in, delivery if reasonable, don't give these stupid sups ammunition for dishonesty

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  15. ManInBrown

    ManInBrown Well-Known Member

    Never seen it. But I wouldn't be shocked. They would do it to see if driver would message it in
     
  16. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    At driver start time PT sups are just throwing everything stacked behind the package car in. Not sure if you can call that an intentional misload or not.
     
  17. iruhnman630

    iruhnman630 Active Member

    I've always found it bizarre that mgmt would risk a service failure just to bust somebody
     
  18. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    We had a loader tell us once that a salt had been loaded in a particular package car.
    When they weren't paying attention, we took it and loaded in the car it would be in if it were a legitimate package and it was delivered.
    When it wasn't reported as a misload by the driver they intended to salt, they were waiting like hyenas to bust him on a check-in audit.
    When they couldn't find "the package", they finally asked him if he had come across it?
    He then innocently told them, "I found it before I left and got it in the right truck".
    Management had to go to a local hospital the next day and retrieve the package and explain the next day.
    Priceless.
     
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  19. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    They are manufactured, un-billable bar codes.
    Not real packages, no service failure possible.
     
  20. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    How many days have you worked at UPS? UPS is building a case against that driver for a termination that will stick.
     
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