Management with Degrees Leaving

Discussion in 'UPS Partners' started by Photog, Oct 29, 2014.

  1. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    I been in contact with a few UPSers and there are three management people in their 20's and 30's that have left in the last two months.
    These are top performers moving on to other companies for better compensation.
    Times are a changing ... it use to be you would not see 3 people leave in a year much less two months.
     
  2. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    It's not only compensation, but I'll the working environment as well.
    I go into many businesses every day and none have the terrible work enviroment we have at UPS.
     
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  3. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Maybe its time the good old boys club in the Ivory tower re-read the chapter on "how to treat employees like human beings". Things seem to be blowing up in their face more and more lately.
     
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  4. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.

    *I have been.....*




    Just sayin':)
     
  5. SignificantOwner

    SignificantOwner A Package Center Manager

    I know some that have left, and others that are looking. It's easy math. Average compensation + below average working conditions + portable retirement plan + December sucks for your family every year until you retire = turnover.

    Taking from management is so engrained in UPS culture now that it's done by default. I wonder how many neglected to register and were defaulted to no spousal coverage and tobacco user status even though they have spousal coverage and non-tobacco user status this year.

    Evidently these youngsters aren't feeling the love.
     
  6. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    I doubt the decisions were based strictly on compensation, as realbrown pointed out. But I wasn't there ;)
     
  7. elo

    elo Trying to figure out where they hid the body.

    I can completely understand leaving. I hate to admit it, but given the opportunity to go full-time (if that would ever be an option) with UPS or move on to a better environment for better pay I'm leaving. Of course I'm in no position to leave now, but I see myself moving on by this time next year.
     
  8. brown bomber

    brown bomber brown bomber

    Didn't Jim Casey say something to the effect that employees are the #1 asset in the company ??? Oh never mind it's now the stockholders
     
  9. VonDutch

    VonDutch Bite your tongue, Missy

    If someone with a degree is willing to tolerate the level of abuse that they are subject to I'd wonder what exactly their degree is in.
     
  10. beentheredonethat

    beentheredonethat Well-Known Member

    That is happening everywhere. Unfortunately, it is our best supervisors who leave. I think in a few years we will really be screwed when our experienced mgmt team retires.
     
  11. SignificantOwner

    SignificantOwner A Package Center Manager

    Our new CEO has been emphasizing the value of our people. I'm skeptical but we shall see. MIP talks, BS walks.
     
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  12. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    According to one of our Management Committee members and her exact words "... Our Brand is our # One asset".
    I heard gasps in the audience when she said this. (along with WTF).
     
  13. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Talk is cheap, hope he follows through.
     
  14. CharleyHustle

    CharleyHustle Active Member

    Don't you believe, deep down, that this is the truth.
     
  15. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    This is only one of several truths!
     
  16. CharleyHustle

    CharleyHustle Active Member

    I have a small truth; Of all the management people I know, granted this doesn't go much above a Division Mgr, I don't see any of them doing things that should require a collage degree. So, if you have a degree and don't see yourself going any higher than a DM, maybe you should quit.
     
  17. SignificantOwner

    SignificantOwner A Package Center Manager

    There are no operations positions at any level that require degrees to be successful. Outside of operations there are very few positions that require degrees to be successful, even in Atlanta. Typically all a degree does for you is put your resume in a different pile.
     
  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    A degree shows that you have the willingness to learn and the ability to be trained. It does not necessarily mean that you will do a better job that an otherwise equally qualified employee who does not have their degree.
     
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  19. jumpman23

    jumpman23 Oh Yeah

    Yeah maybe their not content on mediocrity n failure like the rest of the robot supes who don't care n just let everything run like poop all the time. Sad but true
     
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  20. SignificantOwner

    SignificantOwner A Package Center Manager

    Well said.