The title of this thread is "Management screw-up. No warning letter"
The "standards" I refer to are job performance standards, and have nothing to do with honesty or lack thereof.
Nowhere in this thread is willful dishonesty mentioned,
Not true actually, worthlessdrivers post on the first page of this thread is about almost nothing but willful dishonesty.
and nowhere in the thread do I make the claim that "all management are crooks". I am referring only to the blatant double standard that exists at UPS regarding personal responsibility for mistakes. As a management person, you can sweep your screwups under the rug or shift the responsibility for them to another part of the operation. As an hourly, I can't.
I can sorta see where you are coming from, I did interpret it a different way, my apologies.
You are however worked up over an apples to oranges comparison.
You say as an hourly you cannot sweep your screw ups under the rug. I have known drivers to do this very thing. I have also known them to get fired for trying. I have known management who have swept stuff under the rug, and known them to get fired for trying. Based on my experiences, I disagree with that part of your statement.
As for shifting responsibility to another part of the operation you are likely correct. It is difficult or impossible due to the nature of your work, for you to blame other hourlies for any screw up you might do.
Management is a completely different perspective. I am not responsible in my operation for 100 or so stops and 200 or so packages every day. I and my fellow sups are collectively responsible for around 20,000 stops and 45,000 packages a day. If one of my fellow sups screws up and we wind up with a bunch of service failures, guess what, I get written up as well. When was the last time you were written up because a brother teamster missed a pickup? From a production standpoint, I am responsible for my own actions, and the actions of my fellow sups, and the action of the hourlies that report to us. If they fail, we share in the discipline that results from that failure.
soberups said:
As a driver, If I misdeliver 2 packages per day, every day...I will be issued a warning letter within a few days, suspended within a week or two, and terminated soon after if I do not immediately correct my problem.
But are similar consequences imposed upon the IE man who screws up multiple timestudies.... or the operations manager who fails to accurately forecast volume to the extent that the dispatch fails and dozens if not hundreds of stops are missed? No.
Yes. The IE man who screws up multiple time studies will be removed from his position. As for the ops manager, I cannot believe you are comparing mis-delivering packages on your car, in your area of knowledge repeatedly, with not being able to accurately predict the future, but what the hell, I will bite.
In your case, let us say you mis deliver 2 out of 100 stops. That is 2% failure rate. If you do it repeatedly, yes, you will face discipline. So lets say the ops manager fails to accurately predict the future, screws it up badly, and say results in 900 service failures. That is a ton. That is also the same 2% you did on 45,000 pieces. And yes, if he screws up that badly repeatedly, he will be removed from his job.