Massive NE Snowstorm

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by instantK, Feb 7, 2013.

  1. instantK

    instantK Member

    Should be fun!
    12"+ in some areas
     
  2. curiousbrain

    curiousbrain Well-Known Member

    26" inches in mine. And, I'll shovel every inch of it.
     
  3. BlackJack616

    BlackJack616 Active Member

    26" wow thats insane....
     
  4. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    UPS Freight has already told their drivers to stay home and be safe tomorrow.
     
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Our winter storm watch has been downgraded to a winter weather advisory. 4-8" expected through Saturday. Yawn.
     
  6. jibbs

    jibbs Long Live the Chief

    All it means for me is rain, and a whole lot of it. :biting:
     
  7. Johney

    Johney Raise your hand if you think Upstate is a D-Bag

    81 as a high today. yawn.
     
  8. HEFFERNAN

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    I'm in the middle of CT

    The forecast sounds worse and worse every time I check on it. I have to assume we won't be put out there , but Hurricane Sandy didn't stop them either.
     
  9. jibbs

    jibbs Long Live the Chief


    I've got a lot of family in NE (Connecticut, Vermont and New Hampshire) and, I gotta be honest here, I'm jealous of the winters you guys get. Granted, winter driving sucks, but seeing as how I have the option to stay off the roads I'm still able to love big snowfalls. I'm sure you guys get sick of it but it's such a pretty view when you're on the outside looking in (or the inside looking out, depending on your point of view).
     
  10. texan

    texan Well-Known Member

    A potentially historic Nor'easter is brewing for the Northeast U.S., where blizzard watches are up for
    much of eastern Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Connecticut. The storm, dubbed "Nemo" by the
    Weather Channel, is expected to bring heavy snows of 1 - 2 feet, coastal wind gusts over hurricane force, and moderate to major coastal flooding.

    During the peak of the storm, Friday night into Saturday morning, snowfall rates of 2 - 3" per hour
    can be expected. These intense bursts of snow may be accompanied by lightning and thunder.

    The cites of Boston, Hartford, Providence, Portland, and Burlington are all likely to get more than
    a foot of snow, and two feet of snow will probably fall along a swath from the western
    suburbs of Boston to Southwest Maine.

    With the Nor'easter generating these heavy snows expected to bomb out with a central
    pressure of 972 - 976 mb, the rapid flow of air around this low pressure center will generate
    ferocious sustained winds near 50 mph at the coast, with wind gusts in excess of hurricane
    force--74 mph.

    The combination of heavy snow and high winds will make travel extremely dangerous or
    impossible, with near-zero visibility in white-out conditions.

    Total snowfall from the storm is likely to rank in the top ten for Boston since weather
    observations began at Logan Airport in 1936.

    Dr. Jeff Masters' WunderBlog : Historic Nor'easter poised to slam Boston and the Northeast U.S. | Weather Underground
     
  11. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    There should be two areas of "jackpot" snow depths.
    One being where the backbent warm front sets up and mid-level deformation occurs. This will probably be the east slope of the Berkshires, through the foothills of S NH.
    The second and worst area is most likely Interstate 128/495 in Massachusetts, SW W or NW of Boston.
    Easily 20" if not up to 40" for a few spots. In Eastern Mass, there's going to be 40+mph wind if not up to 80mph. This is probably a high-end blizzard, at least low-end (if there is such a thing)
     
  12. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    Ah, here we go. :D Apparently BOX agrees.

    000
    FXUS61 KBOX 072351
    AFDBOX

    AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
    NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAUNTON MA
    651 PM EST THU FEB 7 2013

    .SYNOPSIS...
    A HISTORIC WINTER STORM AND BLIZZARD IS ANTICIPATED FOR FRIDAY
    INTO SATURDAY...WITH AROUND 2 FEET OF SNOW POSSIBLE.
    THIS STORM
    SHOULD COME TO AN END LATER SATURDAY. DRY WEATHER RETURNS BY
    SUNDAY. A GREAT LAKES STORM WILL SWING A COLD FRONT THROUGH NEW
    ENGLAND ON MONDAY NIGHT...FOLLOWED BY DRY WEATHER TUESDAY.

    &&

    .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM FRIDAY MORNING/...

    630 PM UPDATE...
    1038 MB HIGH CENTERED OVER QUEBEC AND EXTENDS ACROSS NEW ENGLAND.
    PLENTY OF COLD DRY AIR WITH DEWPOINTS IN THE SINGLE NUMBERS
    ABOVE/BELOW ZERO. THE HIGH WILL SHIFT EAST A LITTLE
    OVERNIGHT...EXTENDING ALONG AN ARC FROM QUEBEC TO THE MARITIMES.
    THIS WILL BE A CLASSIC SETUP FOR THE WEATHER TO FOLLOW ON FRIDAY.

    THE COLD AIR WILL REMAIN OVER SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND THROUGH THE
    NIGHT. CLOUDS HAVE MOVED ACROSS THE REGION AND WILL SLOWLY THICKEN
    AND LOWER THROUGH THE NIGHT AS WARM ADVECTION ALOFT INCREASES.

    ONLY SMALL AJUSTMENTS TO THE FORECAST TEMPS AND DEWPOINTS.

    &&

    .SHORT TERM /6 AM FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH SATURDAY/...
    HEADLINES /HIGH CONFIDENCE/...

    * A POTENTIAL HISTORIC WINTER STORM/BLIZZARD WILL IMPACT SOUTHERN
    NEW ENGLAND FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY...WHICH WILL POSE THREATS
    TOWARDS LIFE AND PROPERTY.

    * BLIZZARD WARNINGS IN EFFECT FOR ALL OF CT...RI...AND E/SE MA.
    WINTER STORM WARNINGS FOR ALL OTHER LOCALES.

    * FOR THOSE AREAS WITHIN THE BLIZZARD WARNING...HIGH WIND WARNING
    CRITERIA IS INCLUSIVE. HIGH WINDS SHOULD BE ANTICIPATED WITH GUSTS
    OF AROUND 60 MPH.

    * STORM SNOWFALL TOTALS BY STORMS END MAY BE IN THE ALL-TIME TOP
    10 FOR VARIOUS CITIES...UP TO AROUND 2 TO 3 FEET POSSIBLE.
    BLOWING AND DRIFTING ANTICIPATED RESULTING IN DRIFTS UP TO
    AROUND 5 FEET.

    * TRAVEL CONDITIONS WILL DETERIORATE QUICKLY THROUGH THE DAY
    FRIDAY...BECOMING NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE BY THE FRIDAY EVENING COMMUTE
    INTO SATURDAY.

    */MODEL CONSENSUS...

    DETERMINISTIC MODEL SOLUTIONS ARE ALL IN FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH
    THE CONSISTENT ECMWF. WILL LEAN WITH THE ECMWF CONSIDERING NOT ONLY
    THE LOCATION OF THE SURFACE LOW...BUT ALSO THE H85-7 LOW WITH
    REGARDS TO THE CONVEYOR BELT PROCESSES /WARM...COLD...DRY/. BOTH THE
    ECMWF/GFS LINE UP WELL WITH THE MID-LVL LOW
    WHEREAS THE NAM IS
    DISPLACED SLIGHTLY TO THE WEST.

    */SYNOPSIS...

    SPLIT FLOW DISTURBANCES TRANSLATE INTO THE NORTHEASTERN CONUS DURING
    THE DAY FRIDAY...PHASING ACROSS THE S/E SHORELINES OF NEW ENGLAND
    AND OFFSHORE. THE NORTHERN STREAM IS USURPED INTO THE SOUTHERN
    STREAM DISTURBANCE INTO AN EXPLOSIVE DEEPENING SURFACE LOW OVER THE
    40N/70W BENCHMARK. THE DEEPENING SYSTEM DRAWS DEEP MOIST FLOW FROM
    THE SOUTH PER STRONG /HURRICANE FORCE/ LOW-LVL FLOW. THE EXPECTATION
    IS FOR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS TO IMPACT MUCH OF EASTERN AND ALL OF
    SOUTHEASTERN NEW ENGLAND FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY PRIOR TO THE
    STORM TAPERING OFF INTO SATURDAY NIGHT.

    MESOSCALE DETAILS STILL REMAIN DIFFICULT TO PIN DOWN...BUT FEEL THE
    DETAILS BELOW CONVEY OUR BEST THINKING.

    */PRECIPITATION...

    PRIOR TO THE PHASING AND BOMBING OF THE SURFACE LOW /DURING THE DAY
    FRIDAY/...ANTICIPATE WIDESPREAD AND LIGHT PRECIPITATION TO FALL
    ACROSS ALL OF SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND MAINLY IN THE FORM OF LIGHT SNOW
    INCREASING IN INTENSITY INTO THE AFTERNOON HOURS. A MIX OF RAIN AND
    SNOW IS ANTICIPATED ACROSS THE S/SE COASTAL REGIONS OF NEW
    ENGLAND...WITH RAIN ACROSS THE MAJORITY OF THE CAPE AND NANTUCKET.

    AS THE LOW BOMBS TOWARDS THE 40N/70W BENCHMARK...ANTICIPATING THE
    LOW-MID LVL THERMAL FIELDS TO COLLAPSE...TIGHTENING WITH RESPECT TO
    THE SURFACE LOW. N/NE FLOW SHOULD DRAW DOWN COLD AIR ACROSS ALL OF
    SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND AND OFFSHORE.

    ANTICIPATING ANY AND ALL WET MIX TO CHANGE TO SNOW TOWARDS THE
    FRIDAY EVENING COMMUTE...THE INTENSITY OF WHICH WILL CONTINUE TO
    INCREASE DURING THIS TIME-FRAME. RAIN WILL CONTINUE TO LINGER ACROSS
    THE EASTERN CAPE AND NANTUCKET...GRADUALLY TRANSITIONING TO SNOW
    TOWARDS MIDNIGHT SATURDAY. COLDER AIR WILL CONTINUE TO DRAW SOUTH
    RESULTING IN SNOW ACROSS THE INTERIOR TOWARDS THE COAST BECOMING
    FLUFFIER.

    MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW WILL CONTINUE INTO MIDDAY SATURDAY...
    BECOMING LIGHTER INTO LATE MORNING HOURS SATURDAY...GRADUALLY
    TAPERING WEST TO EAST AS THE SURFACE LOW EXITS OUT INTO THE
    ATLANTIC INTO SATURDAY NIGHT.

    */SNOWFALL AMOUNTS...

    SW-NE SNOW-BANDING IS ANTICIPATED ALONG AND PIVOTING WITH THE NW
    QUADRANT OF THE MID-LVL LOW COINCIDENT WITH FAVORABLE ISENTROPIC
    TROWALING OF THETAE...MID-LVL FRONTOGENESIS...AND DEEP-LAYER
    ENHANCED ASCENT.


    IT IS WITHIN THESE REGIONS THAT 3 INCH/HR SNOWFALL RATES WILL BE
    QUITE POSSIBLE. BANDS MAY BE ONLY 5 TO 10 MILES IN WIDTH...AND WITH
    THE DYNAMICLY DEEP NATURE OF THE STORM IT IS NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION
    WE MAY SEE THUNDER-SNOW. BUT THE KEY IS THE LOCATION OF THE H85-7
    LOW AS THE PLACEMENT OF WHICH AND THE ATTENDANT DYNAMICS WILL
    DETERMINE WHO SEES THE HEAVIEST OF SNOWS. THERE REMAINS AN
    UNCERTAINTY AS DETERMINISTIC SOLNS VARY TO SLIGHT DEGREES IN
    PLACEMENT OF THE H85-7 LOW.


    ASIDE...WITH MORE FAVORABILITY TOWARDS THE ECMWF...A LOW-MID LVL
    BAND SETUP IS ANTICIPATED ACROSS SE NEW ENGLAND COINCIDENT WITH
    THE BETTER DEFORMATION ZONE OF THE LOW /PARALLEL AND LIKELY ALONG
    THE I-95 CORRIDOR BETWEEN BOSTON AND PROVIDENCE/. NO SURPRISE...AS
    CLIMATOLOGICALLY WITH A SURFACE LOW CROSSING OVER THE 40N/70W
    BENCHMARK THE HEAVIEST SNOWS ARE ORIENTED ALONG AND ACROSS THE
    I-95 CORRIDOR.
    WILL SET MY SIGHTS OF HEAVIEST SNOWFALL AMOUNTS IN
    THIS VICINITY.

    A MORE MID-LVL BANDING SETUP APPEARS LIKELY FROM THE SOUTHERN HUDSON
    RIVER VALLEY ACROSS W MA TOWARDS THE SHORELINE OF MAINE.


    A MAJORITY OF THE BANDING WILL OCCUR BEGINNING AROUND THE FRIDAY
    EVENING COMMUTE INTO SATURDAY MORNING.

    WILL KEEP THE HEAVIEST SNOWS ACROSS E/SE NEW ENGLAND WITH THE
    EXPECTATION OF WHITE OUT CONDITIONS UNDER HIGH WIND CRITERIA.
    ANTICIPATING A LULL IN SNOW AMOUNTS ACROSS THE CONNECTICUT VALLEY
    BETWEEN THE TWO AFOREMENTIONED BANDING SIGNATURES. LESSER AMOUNTS
    OVER THE EASTERN CAPE AND TOWARDS THE ISLANDS DUE TO THE INITIAL
    MIXING WITH RAIN.

    HAVE GONE WITH BLIZZARD WARNINGS FOR CT/RI AND E/SE MA EXCLUDING
    NANTUCKET. ALL OTHER LOCATIONS UNDER A WINTER STORM WARNING. WILL
    SET THE TIMING FROM FRIDAY MORNING INTO SATURDAY...WITH THE
    EXPECTATION OF THE WORST OF THE CONDITIONS FRIDAY NIGHT INTO
    SATURDAY.

    */WINDS...

    STRONGEST WINDS CENTER AROUND FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY OUT OF THE
    NORTH-NORTHEAST. RULES OF THUMB...HALVING THE H85 FLOW NETS AN
    ESTIMATE OF EXPECTED SURFACE WINDS OF AROUND 45 TO 50 MPH...WHILE AN
    EVALUATION OF THE SURFACE PRESSURE DIFFERENTIAL NETS AN ESTIMATE OF
    AROUND 60 MPH.

    CONSIDERING LOCAL CASE STUDIES AND CLIMATOLOGY BASED ON PRESSURE
    DIFFERENTIALS AND H925/85 WINDS...WE WILL HIT HIGH WIND WARNING
    CRITERIA FOR A MAJORITY OF EASTERN AND ALL OF SOUTHEASTERN NEW
    ENGLAND.

    CONSIDERING THE PROXIMITY OF THE SURFACE LOW...PRECIPITATION DRAG
    PROCESSES...AND A MOIST-ADIABATIC VERTICAL PROFILE UP TO H925 WHERE
    N/NE WINDS MAX UP TO AROUND 90 MPH...AM EXPECTING GUSTS AROUND 30
    MPH FOR FAR NW MA...INCREASING SOUTH AND EAST WITH GUSTS ACROSS SE
    MA INCLUDING THE CAPE/ISLANDS AND ADJACENT WATERS OF AROUND 80 MPH.
    CLIMATOLOGICALLY...BASED ON THE LOW PASSING OVER THE 40N/70W BENCH-
    MARK...THE STRONGEST WINDS ARE EXPECTED AROUND THE I-95 CORRIDOR
    SOUTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE CAPE/ISLANDS AND ADJACENT WATERS.


    AS MENTIONED EARLIER...DRAW DOWN OF COLDER AIR WILL MAKE THE SNOW
    FLUFFIER IN NATURE. ANTICIPATING BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW RESULTING
    IN DRIFTS OF AROUND 5 FEET.

    IN AREAS WHERE THE BLIZZARD WARNING IS IN EFFECT...THE GENERAL
    PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT HIGH WIND CRITERIA ARE INCLUSIVE NOT
    REQUIRING THE ISSUANCE OF A HIGH WIND WARNING. THE GREATEST
    POTENTIAL OF HIGH WINDS WILL BE ACROSS E/SE MA INTO RI...THE
    STRONGEST ALONG THE IMMEDIATE SHORES.

    HURRICANE FORCE WIND WARNINGS FOR THE OUTER WATERS...WITH STORM
    WARNINGS FOR THE INNER WATERS.

    */MARINE IMPACTS...

    PLEASE SEE THE MARINE SECTION NEAR THE BOTTOM OF THE DISCUSSION.

    */COASTAL FLOODING...

    PLESE SEE THE COASTAL FLOODING SECTION AT THE BOTTOM OF THE
    DISCUSSION.
     
  13. Johney

    Johney Raise your hand if you think Upstate is a D-Bag

    You all have a nice day at work tomorrow :2cold:I think our high is to be around 80.
     
  14. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Is this where I tell you we picked a tomato off of a plant that planted itself and grew to 3 feet tall since Oct.???
     
  15. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    The Governor has told all non-essential state employees to stay home, and wants everyone off the roads by noon. With the high winds and the heavy snowfall (1-2 inches an hour they're saying), it's going to be white-out conditions.

    We'll see how long UPS keeps us out there...
     
  16. serenity now

    serenity now Guest

    .....till it's too late to safely get you back
     
  17. OptimusPrime

    OptimusPrime Active Member

    I'm here in Indiana. I don't care if we get 6 feet of snow. Just keep the ice away. During peak we had a really icey day, and I was so goddamned exhausted after riding around for 12 hours with my butthole puckered tight enough to drop diamonds. I can handle snow. Just takes a whole lot of flooring, lol. I can control those slides. Ice is the deadly mistress.
     
  18. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    I'm in RI. 24-34 inches. We were told regular workday on Friday. All routes are in. Apparently safety is of the utmost concern.......to me. I followed the contract and booked off at least one hour before my shift. Actually 10 hours before.
     
  19. Re-Raise

    Re-Raise Well-Known Member

    Screw that. We had blizzard conditions here in the midwest on Dec 23rd.

    I know my roads better than they do sitting in an office. When the conditions got to the point that I felt it would be unsafe to continue, I sent a message that I was heading in.

    They like to use the "professional driver" tag against us when they are trying to charge us with avoiding accidents, well then as a "professional driver" I decided to bring it in.

    Good luck East Coast brothers and sisters, don't try to to heroes, there is always another day to get them delivered.
     
  20. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Going to be a lot of EC's tomorrow.