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<blockquote data-quote="Catatonic" data-source="post: 989615" data-attributes="member: 7966"><p>Try reading post #122.</p><p></p><p>I am only talking about whether IE makes the decision or whether Operations makes the decision on final dispatch.</p><p></p><p>I actually talked to an ex-Management Committee level person in charge of Operations for half the country.</p><p>I will not use the words he used but it was clear that Operations still ran Operations.</p><p>I was in IE and I understand the system - especially accountability.</p><p>I understand how you and others at he field level look at the Plan that comes down that is provided by IE applications and consequently place the blame on IE.</p><p>In reality, it is weak Operations management that goes along with the IE developed plan (actually a computer system's plan).</p><p>These Risk Adverse management people know there is less risk to them personally if they don't challenge or change the IE plan.</p><p>If they simply follow the IE Plan, they have less accountability for the results.</p><p></p><p>I don't normally answer these types of questions but Pman has abdicated his position of authority by responding to Dispatch.</p><p>I do so for you because you are new to UPS and young and this may give you insight to why things happen in the centers.</p><p>I don't bother with Soberups because he has a closed mind on this subject and it conflicts with his mantras. Ummmmmm...Ummmmmm...Ummmmmmm...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Catatonic, post: 989615, member: 7966"] Try reading post #122. I am only talking about whether IE makes the decision or whether Operations makes the decision on final dispatch. I actually talked to an ex-Management Committee level person in charge of Operations for half the country. I will not use the words he used but it was clear that Operations still ran Operations. I was in IE and I understand the system - especially accountability. I understand how you and others at he field level look at the Plan that comes down that is provided by IE applications and consequently place the blame on IE. In reality, it is weak Operations management that goes along with the IE developed plan (actually a computer system's plan). These Risk Adverse management people know there is less risk to them personally if they don't challenge or change the IE plan. If they simply follow the IE Plan, they have less accountability for the results. I don't normally answer these types of questions but Pman has abdicated his position of authority by responding to Dispatch. I do so for you because you are new to UPS and young and this may give you insight to why things happen in the centers. I don't bother with Soberups because he has a closed mind on this subject and it conflicts with his mantras. Ummmmmm...Ummmmmm...Ummmmmmm... [/QUOTE]
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