Message to all you runners!

stink219

Well-Known Member
I understand your point except, their job is also under a contractual obligation to take a lunch. It also effects the driver that have their routes covered by these runners. I deal with it daily.

BOSS-"Why are you an hour paid over everyday but Mr. Run-zio is always scratch?"

DRIVER-"Because he skates his lunch?"

BOSS- "That's irrelevant."

ME (steward)-"Your ignorance to this situation concerning your unequal treatment of your employees is very relevant."

This is verbatim of a conversation I dealt with last week. It's also managements RESPONSIBILITY to ensure safe work practices. One of those being nutrition and rest.

Your numbers are adjusted when you take a lunch. Actually a lunch helps your numbers. Or are you saying they're entering the lunch in but not taking one?
Runners in our center have to input a lunch. It's required by contract.
 
I take my lunch my hour lunch and I'm still done around 4. I try to race back to the building before I get that message to go help someone. But I clocked out by 445 everyday this week. So I got paid an extra 45 mins
 

stink219

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I'd hate to make a religious post, but instead of giving up something for lent such as meat, smoking, chocolate and all that other boshat, why don't all the runners take their lunch for 40 days?

How about you focus on your own life and own route at UPS for 40 days instead of worrying about other people's lives and business. Why do you care what other people do at UPS? I know I could care less about what another employee does. My world at UPS is simplified to one action. Follow the methods. Everything else is cream cheese. Who gives two flying saucers if joe balloon is 2 hours paid under. I certainly dont. Not my problem. Its Joe Balloon's.
First off, I worry about my own life and route EVERYDAY! Your in a union and you don't care about other employees? If you follow the methods as you say, you need to take a lunch as UPS's safety protocol and contract requires. It's management's, the union's and as a steward, my responsibility that people honor the INTENT AND WORD of our contractual language. Not taking your lunch in my neck of the city effects the numbers and lives of other drivers. I could care less if your 10 hours paid under if you follow all rules. I could care less if you don't take a lunch. I could care less if you make 10k a year or 200k a year. I do however care if people work off the clock without getting paid. That's essentially what we are discussing. I and most on here live in a world where lunches are not paid. They are deducted weather you take one or not. Guys that cover these routes enter a lunch but work through it. The transfer is when the regular driver gets his balls busted for following all the METHODS but is "paid over" against the scratch guy that lies about taking his lunch when he does not. It may be Joe's balloon but it's everyone's air.
 

stink219

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I take my lunch my hour lunch and I'm still done around 4. I try to race back to the building before I get that message to go help someone. But I clocked out by 445 everyday this week. So I got paid an extra 45 mins
That's the difference. If you finished at 4 in RI, you would get 3.5 hours more added to you EVERYDAY. That would be your new "standard".
 
Do old guys not like the supposed 'runners' because they make them look bad?
I dont care what you do....but when you get your butt in a pickle..Oh please please Mr. Senior driver would you mind dropping your 500 dollar excessive overtime grievance, so that I dont have to take a 10 day suspension!! Do the job and follow DA RULES like the rest of us do!!!!Dont drag your feet ...but dont run around like a chicken with no head!! Oh i dont know why I took that package to the wrong house or why I didnt see that other car in my lane. B.S. wise up!!!ROADRUNNER.....meep meep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I dont care what you do....but when you get your butt in a pickle..Oh please please Mr. Senior driver would you mind dropping your 500 dollar excessive overtime grievance, so that I dont have to take a 10 day suspension!! Do the job and follow DA RULES like the rest of us do!!!!Dont drag your feet ...but dont run around like a chicken with no head!! Oh i dont know why I took that package to the wrong house or why I didnt see that other car in my lane. B.S. wise up!!!ROADRUNNER.....meep meep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who said I was a 'runner'?

I average about 20 minutes to half hour over.
 

stink219

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If you work fast and follow the rules your not a runner. Runner=someone that runs their lunch and falsifies the time in the diad to reflect a lunch but works through it. We have given you countless reasons to why it affect other drivers, but I'm only hearing "What do you care?" Then I say why again and I read "what do you care?". If you can't see how it does affect other workers your either intentionally being ignorant or your a plane old fashioned runner!! But don't worry, if we ever are in a bar, I'll pick up the tab, I got plenty of extra cash.
 

brownmonster

Man of Great Wisdom
If you work fast and follow the rules your not a runner. Runner=someone that runs their lunch and falsifies the time in the diad to reflect a lunch but works through it. We have given you countless reasons to why it affect other drivers, but I'm only hearing "What do you care?" Then I say why again and I read "what do you care?". If you can't see how it does affect other workers your either intentionally being ignorant or your a plane old fashioned runner!! But don't worry, if we ever are in a bar, I'll pick up the tab, I got plenty of extra cash.

In my bonus center it's the runners that have all the cash. Why anyone would run 2 hours or more under in a non-bonus center is beyond me. At least we get paid for it.
 

Logb17

Well-Known Member
An hour lunch as automatically deducted? That sounds pretty ****ty to me. That cant be right. Here you have an option half or full, but you must complete it.
 

stink219

Well-Known Member
I understand your point except, their job is also under a contractual obligation to take a lunch. It also effects the driver that have their routes covered by these runners. I deal with it daily.

BOSS-"Why are you an hour paid over everyday but Mr. Run-zio is always scratch?"

DRIVER-"Because he skates his lunch?"

BOSS- "That's irrelevant."

ME (steward)-"Your ignorance to this situation concerning your unequal treatment of your employees is very relevant."

This is verbatim of a conversation I dealt with last week. It's also managements RESPONSIBILITY to ensure safe work practices. One of those being nutrition and rest.

I think its "affect" and does it really though? So you had a conversation with your boss. So what? As long as you're hitting you your OJS number, who cares? Do your job and follow the methods. You will live longer.
You don't need to hit your OJS number. Article 37 would not agree.
 

stink219

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An hour lunch as automatically deducted? That sounds pretty ****ty to me. That cant be right. Here you have an option half or full, but you must complete it.
trust me, it's right. I'm a steward. The only time you can get paid hours worked if your under 8. But that never happens due to the 8 hour guarantee. It's all different supplement language in different areas.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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An hour lunch as automatically deducted? That sounds pretty ****ty to me. That cant be right. Here you have an option half or full, but you must complete it.

We are required to put our 45 minute lunch in to our DIADs and will receive a "talk with" if we put in less than that or don't put a lunch in at all. Notice I didn't say that we are required to take our 45 minute lunch----mgt does not check delivery records for activiity during our posted lunch times.

You don't need to hit your OJS number. Article 37 would not agree.

A driver in our center, who has had several lock-in rides and is being monitored for production issues, would disagree with you.
 

stink219

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A driver in our center, who has had several lock-in rides and is being monitored for production issues, would disagree with you.
If numbers and production standards are being allowed in your center, your BA and steward needs to step it up. We would never allow it here. Trust me they have tried.
 
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