nightshiftscottie
Member
What a lot of others have said--don't talk while loading. If someone comes up to you, STOP, hang on to the package, and have the conversation, then go back to loading.
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westsideworma
Guest
Brownie I get you, I've been on both sides and not on the current one long enough to forget what I used to face everyday. If we slow down the preload it costs too much to run the preload (even if the driver side might be less money as a result of less misloads). The cost of misloads etc isn't directly factored into the preload's PPH number as far as I know. However, driver AM time is. I think you have your answer right there. Get it in and get them out the door. Is this the most accurate (or even correct) reasoning? probably not, but its how it looks from what I've seen day to day. I understand what you're saying (in the big picture, costs to UPS would be less), but I don't think theres a formula to measure that or a report to generate for it in the operation currently...so it doesn't matter
That last part was a joke for my "monitoring" friends that observe and report what I say, as you clearly can't distinguish sometimes.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
I don't understand. The only feasible way to "slow down" the work flow and preload properly, without excessive misloads (if any), is to hire more people to do the work. There is no such thing as keeping preloaders for trucks that are out the door or making the flow lighter.
The same amoutn of packages are jammed into cages or careening down the preload conveyers. The idea is UPS would be forced to hire more people and pay more insurance and costs and we KNOW they refuse to do it for the ridiculous profits. That ain't changing.
The same amoutn of packages are jammed into cages or careening down the preload conveyers. The idea is UPS would be forced to hire more people and pay more insurance and costs and we KNOW they refuse to do it for the ridiculous profits. That ain't changing.
ok after preloading for 8 years let me lend a few bits of info here...
- too many packages for the preloaders to handle is rarely ever an issue. It is almost always too little time to handle those packages. 1k packages to load each mornng is doable but not in a 3.5 - 4 hour shift.
- yes there are many preloaders that are an issue and should not have been hired in the first place, and should be fired immediately. A majority of management either tries to kick start these employees or leaves them alone because the employees will turn to the union and then the management can't do anything. I have seen supervisors bring the actions of employees to the attention of management over and over again just to have the management brush it off. Once in a while something gets done but then a week or two later and the employee is back to their usual self and the cycle starts over.
- there is ABSOLUTELY nothing you can do to eliminate missloads. As long as humans are relied upon to do the job there will always be a certain margin of error which we must live with. A specific pattern in the missloads or a rather excessive amount for a moderately worked or less employee can be looked at, but for employees with heavy work loads and or a missload here or there with no pattern to them then nothing can and should be done in terms of punishment or changing methods.
- one of the most overlooked problems I see day to day is that good employees do not receive any kind of meaningful appreciation and the bad employees do not receive any kind of meaningful punishment. Saying good job day after day when the day before ended up well is great and all but after a little while it gets a bit old and stops being effective. A little prize here and there maybe? Perhaps a small raise on the current paycheck? Then on the other side the lazy/unmotivated/uncaring employees never receive any punishment that makes them think twice before they continue with their bad habits. For them its all just "well management most likely wont do anything to me and if they do then everything will be back to normal shortly after and I can then continue doing what I did before." Like I said I have seen supervisors get very frustrated with how their concerns about employees never get proper attention.
- for a preloader to go for an extended period of time without any missloads either means that the preloader has an easy job or the driver does not notice the missload or doesnt want to get the preloader, that they like, in trouble. I'm sure I missload some packages on a couple of my trucks that dont get reported and its probably because my drivers like me and don't want to lose me.
- too many packages for the preloaders to handle is rarely ever an issue. It is almost always too little time to handle those packages. 1k packages to load each mornng is doable but not in a 3.5 - 4 hour shift.
- yes there are many preloaders that are an issue and should not have been hired in the first place, and should be fired immediately. A majority of management either tries to kick start these employees or leaves them alone because the employees will turn to the union and then the management can't do anything. I have seen supervisors bring the actions of employees to the attention of management over and over again just to have the management brush it off. Once in a while something gets done but then a week or two later and the employee is back to their usual self and the cycle starts over.
- there is ABSOLUTELY nothing you can do to eliminate missloads. As long as humans are relied upon to do the job there will always be a certain margin of error which we must live with. A specific pattern in the missloads or a rather excessive amount for a moderately worked or less employee can be looked at, but for employees with heavy work loads and or a missload here or there with no pattern to them then nothing can and should be done in terms of punishment or changing methods.
- one of the most overlooked problems I see day to day is that good employees do not receive any kind of meaningful appreciation and the bad employees do not receive any kind of meaningful punishment. Saying good job day after day when the day before ended up well is great and all but after a little while it gets a bit old and stops being effective. A little prize here and there maybe? Perhaps a small raise on the current paycheck? Then on the other side the lazy/unmotivated/uncaring employees never receive any punishment that makes them think twice before they continue with their bad habits. For them its all just "well management most likely wont do anything to me and if they do then everything will be back to normal shortly after and I can then continue doing what I did before." Like I said I have seen supervisors get very frustrated with how their concerns about employees never get proper attention.
- for a preloader to go for an extended period of time without any missloads either means that the preloader has an easy job or the driver does not notice the missload or doesnt want to get the preloader, that they like, in trouble. I'm sure I missload some packages on a couple of my trucks that dont get reported and its probably because my drivers like me and don't want to lose me.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
This leads me to wonder who you are considering we were hired for the same job in the same building around the same time..
Dustyroads
Well-Known Member
I don't really know the answer, but I think it has something to do with the whole system. Lots of loaders have no idea at all where their drivers deliver. They never look at the real labels, because that is how they are trained.
Back in the day, before secquence numbers and PAL labels, I had loaders who never, ever had a misload, didn't have any secquence numbers, loaded everything by address, without a misload. We had a loader in the late 70's who had a record going of several years of no misloads, and she loaded three trucks with 150-200 stops every day. And, not only were there no misloads, everything was always in the same spot in the truck every day.
The obvious answer is to concentrate on one's job and avoid distractions. But, that doesn't seem to be enough to solve the problem.
With the PAL system, we have misloads happening every day that would have never, ever occurred if the loaders were looking at the real label on the package.
Back in the day, before secquence numbers and PAL labels, I had loaders who never, ever had a misload, didn't have any secquence numbers, loaded everything by address, without a misload. We had a loader in the late 70's who had a record going of several years of no misloads, and she loaded three trucks with 150-200 stops every day. And, not only were there no misloads, everything was always in the same spot in the truck every day.
The obvious answer is to concentrate on one's job and avoid distractions. But, that doesn't seem to be enough to solve the problem.
With the PAL system, we have misloads happening every day that would have never, ever occurred if the loaders were looking at the real label on the package.
This is what I do and its probably the main reason why I hardly ever get missloads. I load 2 mall vans and the sequence numbers have never been setup the way they should on those trucks, so I went to the malls website and saw were the stores were located and then made charts that list were all the stores should go on the truck. So that means I look at the original label first and then look at the PAL to make sure the right store name is on the PAL and that the store didnt get moved to a different truck.
Pump Up The Volume
Well-Known Member
Just do what the on car sups and preload managers do and tell drivers not to sheet the package as missed
