Misloads Who is delivering them????

Bloodybrown

Well-Known Member
When I read the bolded part, I pictured you typing this with a gleam in your eye and laughing an evil laugh. Must have been a leftover remnant of Halloween. :happy-very:
Wrong!!....I don't enjoy terminating anyones employement and give them ample training and opportunity to clean it up!!

Just curious, after you have disciplined up to and including discharge, do the replacements have misloads?
Some do and some don't....I do have a number of preloaders that have a frequency of about 1/10,000 and I have some that are 1/500.....under the same working conditions
Also, since you have gotten rid of all the chronic misloaders, are all your preloaders misload-free now?

I accept a frequency of about 1/3000....and my district division and building are running better than that right now. I do reward my people and have competition to keep it fun......The drivers in my area appreciate the efforts and they would be the first to bitch about misloads and poor load conditions.
 

Bloodybrown

Well-Known Member
I am 100% serious! Being a preloader is by far the hardest ptime job there is! You have to load 3 to 4 trucks for well over a thousand pieces. You belt is backed up and you are tripping over packages on the floor while still having to monitor the bottom belt for bulk.
Why can 70% do a good job and 30 % do a poor job under the same conditions?????
Now throw in the pas system were you have 2 people unloading and 1 spa-er who cant keep up and the wrong labels are getting smacked on the wrong package and even over the original address.
Again, I offer you the same answer 70% do it and 30% don't
No one here has been suspended for missorts and will not be terminated for missorts.
That explains why your District and Division and building are ranked so poorly corporately........the employee's seem to do whatever they want without any consequences!!....Poor management and poor union help to resolve problem that the company needs solved to provide better service to our customers........but you and local 705 don't give a rats ass about servicing our customers!!

Probably by you your union rep is not from ups and is not aware of the ups operation and does not know any better or either ups owns them in your neck of the woods!

All of our Business agents were either Package car or feeder drivers before becoming B/A's

You know red you are the same person.........one who believes in redistribution of weath ( thus your support for Obama)....socialitic views that flow into the work enviornment.........all people should be treated equally.....wether you do the job your paid for or if suck at it and don't care !!............If you and your B/A's would do your job properly...and help solve these type of service problems instead of protecting the few that don't deserve it, your District, employee's and most of all our customers would be better off ! !........You know I have had B/A's come in on the preload and ask permission and it was granted, to work with a preloader to try and help solve the problem (class act on his part)......and together with management the kid served some time off on suspension but he has cleaned up his act and is doing a great job!! Our frequency for misloads is over 1/3000....whays yours?? maybe 1/500??.....Your mentality of us (union) against them (management) is not how its suppose to work but your local leadership is the spirit of socialism has brainwashed you!!!

The Union and company have a vested interest in making this company the best it can be!!
 

705red

Browncafe Steward
I am 100% serious! Being a preloader is by far the hardest ptime job there is! You have to load 3 to 4 trucks for well over a thousand pieces. You belt is backed up and you are tripping over packages on the floor while still having to monitor the bottom belt for bulk.
Why can 70% do a good job and 30 % do a poor job under the same conditions?????

Maybe some people can handle working unsafely while others do not want to twist an ankle, blow out a knee or wreck their back.

Now throw in the pas system were you have 2 people unloading and 1 spa-er who cant keep up and the wrong labels are getting smacked on the wrong package and even over the original address.
Again, I offer you the same answer 70% do it and 30% don't


Were exactly are you getting these numbers?
The truth is almost every preloader missorts and it can go un noticed because the trucks that get loaded together might actually be neighboring trucks and they can switch out the packages through out the day or at lunch.

The trucks on either side of me are both 12 to 15 miles away from my route so we cant exchange missorts. Why? really bad planning on ups's part, does not make sense to put these 3 trucks in the same pull. But hey lets fire the poor preloader because the company did not give him a fighting chance!

No one here has been suspended for missorts and will not be terminated for missorts.
That explains why your District and Division and building are ranked so poorly corporately........

How exactly does this reflect my paycheck? Those are numbers that you need to worry about, my numbers that i worry about are deposited into my bank every Thursday night!

the employee's seem to do whatever they want without any consequences!!....Poor management and poor union help to resolve problem that the company needs solved to provide better service to our customers........but you and local 705 don't give a rats ass about servicing our customers!!

Once again you my friend are misinformed! The union about 3 years ago sent ups a letter to negotiate missorts, you know come up with some guidelines to insure the employees have a fair shot at pulling off this miracle. The company has never responded to these letters!

705's job is not to worry about servicing the customer, the union is here to protect the dues paying members that get abused on a daily basis by whip cracking management like yourself.



All of our Business agents were either Package car or feeder drivers before becoming B/A's

You know red you are the same person.........one who believes in redistribution of weath ( thus your support for Obama)....socialitic views that flow into the work enviornment.........all people should be treated equally.....wether you do the job your paid for or if suck at it and don't care !!............If you and your B/A's would do your job properly...and help solve these type of service problems instead of protecting the few that don't deserve it, your District, employee's and most of all our customers would be better off ! !........

My political views are of mine, and the reason i endorse someone is for my beliefs and not just for one reason. I am actually talented enough to multi task and think about more than one issue, someday maybe you could achieve this milestone.

You know I have had B/A's come in on the preload and ask permission and it was granted, to work with a preloader to try and help solve the problem (class act on his part)......

This doesn't look good for your sups! Are you serious that you supervisors do not know how to train employees and that the union needs to do this for you? Maybe you should hire some qualified candidates to go into management by you instead of filling government quotas!


and together with management the kid served some time off on suspension but he has cleaned up his act and is doing a great job!!

I cant believe that this kid lost any paid time after you just admitting that your sups are to incompetent to train!

Our frequency for misloads is over 1/3000....whays yours?? maybe 1/500??.....

Again just numbers that you must account for, but also realize that my building does about 250,000 pieces a day between delivery and pick up, whats yours do?

Your mentality of us (union) against them (management) is not how its suppose to work but your local leadership is the spirit of socialism has brainwashed you!!!

I would not know anything about the union if i never would have needed them because of chest pumping management trying to intimidate me. Now its my job to ensure that this does not happen to others! What you call socialism i call treting others with respect.


The Union and company have a vested interest in making this company the best it can be!!

I want to see the company grow but i also want to see the contract upheld, maybe you should try to do the same!
 

Mike Hawk

Well-Known Member
Back to the original topic...
You FT drivers need to file on supes shuttling and delivering misloads, when January comes and mass layoffs happen that could be your job shuttling, instead of the supes. If you don't want to make waves and file let your BA/steward know and he can file on behalf of someone who could have done the work.
 

Bloodybrown

Well-Known Member
I am 100% serious! Being a preloader is by far the hardest ptime job there is! You have to load 3 to 4 trucks for well over a thousand pieces. You belt is backed up and you are tripping over packages on the floor while still having to monitor the bottom belt for bulk.
Why can 70% do a good job and 30 % do a poor job under the same conditions?????

Maybe some people can handle working unsafely while others do not want to twist an ankle, blow out a knee or wreck their back.
our preload runs clean, we don't accept stacking unless there is no room in the car, preloders are not allowed to create unsafe conditions, we run effecient, effective and productivre which is something you are not capable of concieving!!

Now throw in the pas system were you have 2 people unloading and 1 spa-er who cant keep up and the wrong labels are getting smacked on the wrong package and even over the original address.
Again, I offer you the same answer 70% do it and 30% don't


Were exactly are you getting these numbers?
The truth is almost every preloader missorts and it can go un noticed because the trucks that get loaded together might actually be neighboring trucks and they can switch out the packages through out the day or at lunch.
Wrong!!......I know what's going on in my operations!!...you are a driver and are clueless to whats really going on in a large operation. Just cause your a union rep does not mean your privy to who is and is not misloading on the preload.
The trucks on either side of me are both 12 to 15 miles away from my route so we cant exchange missorts. Why? really bad planning on ups's part, does not make sense to put these 3 trucks in the same pull. But hey lets fire the poor preloader because the company did not give him a fighting chance!
You are an idiot, PAS has made it simple, read the label, put in the right package in the correct car!!.....as for your line up, I can't comment on why your set up that way in your operation, I know we try to balance the pulls so the volume levels are similar for all preloaders??....does that make sense to your narrow minded brain???
No one here has been suspended for missorts and will not be terminated for missorts.
That explains why your District and Division and building are ranked so poorly corporately........

How exactly does this reflect my paycheck? Those are numbers that you need to worry about, my numbers that i worry about are deposited into my bank every Thursday night!
You may not get one some day, if people like you prevail this company will go the way of REA.....your probabaly to young of a punk to know about what happened to them when UPS was #2 and they were the big boy on the block. It started with the hourly not caring about thier company and than spread to the management until they went out of business......I had a relative that worked for them......I know what happened and people like you were responsible for them going down!!

the employee's seem to do whatever they want without any consequences!!....Poor management and poor union help to resolve problem that the company needs solved to provide better service to our customers........but you and local 705 don't give a rats ass about servicing our customers!!

Once again you my friend are misinformed! The union about 3 years ago sent ups a letter to negotiate missorts, you know come up with some guidelines to insure the employees have a fair shot at pulling off this miracle. The company has never responded to these letters!
Don't know what your talking about, I would know about this.....maybe its just your local.
705's job is not to worry about servicing the customer, the union is here to protect the dues paying members that get abused on a daily basis by whip cracking management like yourself.
It may not be 705's job to worry about servicing the customer but its in thier best interest and its the members that they represents job to service the customers like you or face the consequences!!....Poor you....you and the people in palatine are so abused!!!....poor you!!


I want to see the company grow but i also want to see the contract upheld, maybe you should try to do the same!

You are a down right LIAR, when you make that statement and I do uphold the contract!!..........I know how to use it in the companies best interest!!


Your comment about about the B/A coming in was a last ditch effort to help save the kids job, the B/A knows he was trained properly...his point to the kid was you better straighten out or you gone!!

You know you have this concept that all preloaders have lots of misloads everyday!!..Thats not true. I may have 30 preloaders, with 3 or 4 having 7-10 misloads each.....than another 4 or 5 or with 2 or 3 and everone else is clean so once again you would have me do nothing to the poor performers and treat them equally with those that do the job......that concept is socialism!!..............of which you whole hartedly believe in!!

I use union employees to shuttle misloads...several everyday if needed.

Time to go to work.......have a fun week......be careful out there its a jungle out in palatine with those management beasts!!!
 

705red

Browncafe Steward
our preload runs clean, we don't accept stacking unless there is no room in the car, preloders are not allowed to create unsafe conditions, we run effecient, effective and productivre which is something you are not capable of concieving!!

I never said that our preloaders create an unsafe work enviroment! The unsafe work enviroment is created by sups who would rather make their numbers and production standards over the employees well being their priorities. The day your little building handles the volume that is handled by the hard working employees in my building is the day you can say your more efficient!

Wrong!!......I know what's going on in my operations!!...you are a driver and are clueless to whats really going on in a large operation. Just cause your a union rep does not mean your privy to who is and is not misloading on the preload.


Well unlike you i actually started at the bottom and have worked my way up the ladder. And yes i am a driver but i was at one time one of these grunt part timers that you would like to fire because you missed your daily numbers. I have no regrets on were i came from and i will not forget were i came from and i will always remember what it was like to do the ptime job that i did in the 90's. Do you remember were you came from?

You are an idiot, PAS has made it simple, read the label, put in the right package in the correct car!!.....

Wow another typical reponse from a token management figure! Pas has been useful in some areas as in having all of your stops in order in the board with the piece counts. But it has caused missorts to go up because you have 2 unloaders pumping out volume with one person to do the spa work causing the pal labels to get slapped on the wrong package and in alot of times right over the adress of a package.

You now want preloaders to read two labels instead of 1 label, which would be more efficent?

Now preloaders have been taking out of the plan, remember when the preloader would notice 35 boxes for one stop and stack them on the floor somewere? Pas/edd a computer system is not even smart enough to know to move this from the 1000 shelf!


as for your line up, I can't comment on why your set up that way in your operation, I know we try to balance the pulls so the volume levels are similar for all preloaders??....does that make sense to your narrow minded brain???


We are talking about u.p.s higher ups! Nothing they do makes any sense to myself and others! I thought that you couldnt comment on my car placement? What do you just call what you said? A comment?

You may not get one some day, if people like you prevail this company will go the way of REA.....your probabaly to young of a punk to know about what happened to them when UPS was #2 and they were the big boy on the block. It started with the hourly not caring about thier company and than spread to the management until they went out of business......I had a relative that worked for them......I know what happened and people like you were responsible for them going down!!


You mean people like me who stand up for themselves? And others? i will take that as a compliment coming from the likes of you!

I care for this company and at the same time im elected to care for the employees and ensure that the contract that was negotiated on their behalf by people obviously alot smarter than yourself gets honored!

Its the preloaders and drivers that have to over come all the obstacles thrown at us on a daily basis by knucle heads like your self that actually help this company retain its reputation. When i make a delivery the company doesnt see some guy wearing the tie with the pocket protector, with his shirt pulled out still smelling like booze from the night before who calls himself the boss. They see me their family member and they know i will ask about their kids football game, how their sick mother is doing and how are they holding on. And when i walk out of that office they know that i was genuine and thats what seperates us from the others!


It may not be 705's job to worry about servicing the customer but its in thier best interest and its the members that they represents job to service the customers like you or face the consequences!!....Poor you....you and the people in palatine are so abused!!!....poor you!!


Read above paragraph! the members are the face of this company not you the vodka breathe has been!

Its in the locals best interest to represent the contract that the members have agreed to. Never have i said that the members in palatine are abused! In the past upsers across chicago were abused but that has ended with the election of our current slate. In my building we usualy reseolve issues and work together to use corrective measures to change someones behavior.

I dont hide who i am or were i am from! Why dont you enlighten me oh great one, were are you from?


You are a down right LIAR, when you make that statement and I do uphold the contract!!..........I know how to use it in the companies best interest!!

Im the liar? Please reread what you typed! Do you honor the contract at all times or only when it benefits the company as you have posted?



Your comment about about the B/A coming in was a last ditch effort to help save the kids job, the B/A knows he was trained properly...his point to the kid was you better straighten out or you gone!!


If the kid was trained right, what was the matter with the training that he received? If he straightened out after the ba worked with him than its obvious he was not trained properly!

You know you have this concept that all preloaders have lots of misloads everyday!!..Thats not true. I may have 30 preloaders, with 3 or 4 having 7-10 misloads each.....than another 4 or 5 or with 2 or 3 and everone else is clean so once again you would have me do nothing to the poor performers and treat them equally with those that do the job......that concept is socialism!!..............of which you whole hartedly believe in!!


If you believe that every preloader does not have an occasional misload than you are greatly mistaken. You only know what we the drivers tell/allow you to know. As drivers we will protect our good preloaders from the harrasment of you by either delivering the missort or meeting up with the other driver and exchanging it. Many times you have no idea this has happened and we didnt violate anything in doing so.

I believe in a fair days work for a fair days pay, nothing more nothing less, it is what it is!

I use union employees to shuttle misloads...several everyday if needed.

Wow how bad is your misload problem in your perfect little corner of the world if you need several shuttle drivers?

I thought every thing has honky dorry down by you?


Time to go to work.......have a fun week......be careful out there its a jungle out in palatine with those management beasts!!!

What exactly do you do that you are gone for a week at a time? You claim to be a package manager, yet you are not allowed near a computer?


Is this the new center of the future we have been hearing about?

How many martians driver little brown space ships for you?

Or are you going through the deprogramming stages of management?

You know they lock in the brown padded room in a brown onesie, force you to eat off of brown plates using brown silver ware, being whipped by someone dressed up as a preloader with a teamster jacket on.

The good ole ups brown blood transfusion!
 

PAUPSER

Well-Known Member
our preload runs clean, we don't accept stacking unless there is no room in the car, preloders are not allowed to create unsafe conditions, we run effecient, effective and productivre which is something you are not capable of concieving!!

I never said that our preloaders create an unsafe work enviroment! The unsafe work enviroment is created by sups who would rather make their numbers and production standards over the employees well being their priorities. The day your little building handles the volume that is handled by the hard working employees in my building is the day you can say your more efficient!

Wrong!!......I know what's going on in my operations!!...you are a driver and are clueless to whats really going on in a large operation. Just cause your a union rep does not mean your privy to who is and is not misloading on the preload.


Well unlike you i actually started at the bottom and have worked my way up the ladder. And yes i am a driver but i was at one time one of these grunt part timers that you would like to fire because you missed your daily numbers. I have no regrets on were i came from and i will not forget were i came from and i will always remember what it was like to do the ptime job that i did in the 90's. Do you remember were you came from?

You are an idiot, PAS has made it simple, read the label, put in the right package in the correct car!!.....

Wow another typical reponse from a token management figure! Pas has been useful in some areas as in having all of your stops in order in the board with the piece counts. But it has caused missorts to go up because you have 2 unloaders pumping out volume with one person to do the spa work causing the pal labels to get slapped on the wrong package and in alot of times right over the adress of a package.

You now want preloaders to read two labels instead of 1 label, which would be more efficent?

Now preloaders have been taking out of the plan, remember when the preloader would notice 35 boxes for one stop and stack them on the floor somewere? Pas/edd a computer system is not even smart enough to know to move this from the 1000 shelf!


as for your line up, I can't comment on why your set up that way in your operation, I know we try to balance the pulls so the volume levels are similar for all preloaders??....does that make sense to your narrow minded brain???


We are talking about u.p.s higher ups! Nothing they do makes any sense to myself and others! I thought that you couldnt comment on my car placement? What do you just call what you said? A comment?

You may not get one some day, if people like you prevail this company will go the way of REA.....your probabaly to young of a punk to know about what happened to them when UPS was #2 and they were the big boy on the block. It started with the hourly not caring about thier company and than spread to the management until they went out of business......I had a relative that worked for them......I know what happened and people like you were responsible for them going down!!


You mean people like me who stand up for themselves? And others? i will take that as a compliment coming from the likes of you!

I care for this company and at the same time im elected to care for the employees and ensure that the contract that was negotiated on their behalf by people obviously alot smarter than yourself gets honored!

Its the preloaders and drivers that have to over come all the obstacles thrown at us on a daily basis by knucle heads like your self that actually help this company retain its reputation. When i make a delivery the company doesnt see some guy wearing the tie with the pocket protector, with his shirt pulled out still smelling like booze from the night before who calls himself the boss. They see me their family member and they know i will ask about their kids football game, how their sick mother is doing and how are they holding on. And when i walk out of that office they know that i was genuine and thats what seperates us from the others!


It may not be 705's job to worry about servicing the customer but its in thier best interest and its the members that they represents job to service the customers like you or face the consequences!!....Poor you....you and the people in palatine are so abused!!!....poor you!!


Read above paragraph! the members are the face of this company not you the vodka breathe has been!

Its in the locals best interest to represent the contract that the members have agreed to. Never have i said that the members in palatine are abused! In the past upsers across chicago were abused but that has ended with the election of our current slate. In my building we usualy reseolve issues and work together to use corrective measures to change someones behavior.

I dont hide who i am or were i am from! Why dont you enlighten me oh great one, were are you from?




What exactly do you do that you are gone for a week at a time? You claim to be a package manager, yet you are not allowed near a computer?


Is this the new center of the future we have been hearing about?

How many martians driver little brown space ships for you?

Or are you going through the deprogramming stages of management?

You know they lock in the brown padded room in a brown onesie, force you to eat off of brown plates using brown silver ware, being whipped by someone dressed up as a preloader with a teamster jacket on.

The good ole ups brown blood transfusion!

I like that explanation red its really funny yet true lol
 

brownmonster

Man of Great Wisdom
More misloads now with new system therefore it's a failure. More miles with new system therefore it's a failure. Keep pretending it's not.
 

sortaisle

Livin the cardboard dream
Wow this topic is like gun control. Both are right in their own way. It's easily a better system in the fact that when someone is on vacation, anyone can take their place. You don't have the belt supervisor pulling 1 or 2 trucks while the cover guy struggles reading the charts all week long.
It is a job that requires a lot of focus to keep from misloading, however, what happens a lot over here is when someone comes to help out a slammed car, they usually end up doing the misloads. It's easy to get disoriented when you have to work a car ahead of your pull and you get slammed. The only thing you can do is keep your packages together and pull them as best you can.
I whole heartedly disagree that PAS if faster than the old alpha most of the time. The only time PAS is faster is when a car gets moved or when the normal loader is on vacation. I used to be able to look at 1 label only and know exactly where to put it with out having to write the HIN on the side of the box. Writing and walking at the same time, as is required to keep up pace, is not a safe work practice. It took me almost 10 minutes longer to wrap up than before. Believe me, most of the older drivers would prefer to be back in the old school style. My misloads went up with the PAS as well. And I've worked here 12 years and hustle within reason. I truly believe that the process has been dumbed up to far to maintain focus for a lot of people. As a driver though, I don't mind having all of the information in my board (when they don't do add cuts.)
I don't think the PAS system is the Godsend that UPS thinks it is, but it's a very effective system nonetheless. I would give it a "C" overall.
 

TSup

Well-Known Member
It's not just the PAS system, but also how it is implemented !!

You put a 78E and a 78F together you will have misloads more often.

You put a 82A and a 78F together you will have misloads less often but when you do, no chance to fix problem

I have noticed lately that preload will replace 78E with 78EX or 78EE but when preload is still rushed, I still have same issues.

I agree with PAS being put in correctly.

When I put PAS in our center IE tried to get me to use Route ID's, but I objected and we have been loading by Bay number since the beginning. No matter what Routes I put on my people(they do change time to time), they will load the same bays daily in their positions like 107,109,111,113. (straight belt)

We have some who rarely ever have errors. We also have some who have had problems at times. We use progressive discipline after talks just didn't work. I had one person work their way up to discharge, it went to local level and was agreed to a suspension. It still didn't fix the problem. So again this person progressed up to discharge, but this time we were deadlocked at local. Next move was to State panel. Here is where it gets interesting. The employee suddenly has gone week after week after week with no misloads.

So I ask, is this just chance, or did the message finally get through to the employee? My guess is the 2nd.

One side note, the "new" employees seem to do better than the employees who were on the old system. The "new" employee learns the correct way from day 1, where the higher seniority employees sometimes have a hard time changing. Some who have preloaded for many years still try to customize the loads for the drivers when they go on PAS, actually costing themselves a lot more mental work than required. And sometimes making more mistakes.
 

sano

Well-Known Member
I think there are 48 package cars loaded on the boxline i work on. Unofficially i would guess we are averaging 30-35 misloads per week. We were told that the average misload cost UPS $60. In other words, our dock has $1800 worth of misloads per week.
Wouldn't it make sense to ad a few preloaders? It would seem that it would be a lot cheaper to reduce the workload on each loader so we have time to read the labels and have time to build a good load.

I started about 6 weeks ago. I am on what they call the training cage which is 4 trucks. I have had from 750 to 980 packages so far.
There are others on the dock pulling 5 trucks with 1000+ every day.

The other thing that adds to our workload is the add/cuts. It is a rare day that each loader doesn't have at least 1 add/cut.

I am not complaining. I actually don't mind the work.(the hours are bad though)
I just wonder if it wouldn't make more money for UPS to ad a few extra loaders.
 
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westsideworma

Guest
I think there are 48 package cars loaded on the boxline i work on. Unofficially i would guess we are averaging 30-35 misloads per week. We were told that the average misload cost UPS $60. In other words, our dock has $1800 worth of misloads per week.
Wouldn't it make sense to ad a few preloaders? It would seem that it would be a lot cheaper to reduce the workload on each loader so we have time to read the labels and have time to build a good load.

I started about 6 weeks ago. I am on what they call the training cage which is 4 trucks. I have had from 750 to 980 packages so far.
There are others on the dock pulling 5 trucks with 1000+ every day.

The other thing that adds to our workload is the add/cuts. It is a rare day that each loader doesn't have at least 1 add/cut.

I am not complaining. I actually don't mind the work.(the hours are bad though)
I just wonder if it wouldn't make more money for UPS to ad a few extra loaders.

5 trucks? how much time are you given to do it?
 

BigBrownSanta

Well-Known Member
This past week is only the 2nd week this year that I did not have a misload.

So far this year, I have had 190 misloads, and of those, 98 have been missed.

I also want to add that I have gone through 4 different preloaders this year and we are currently on the 3rd new preload sup for the belt.
 

thebrownbox

Well-Known Member
With UPS guaranteeing all residential deliveries on time, this issue will never go away. Even in December when all guarantees are null and void, you will still see this happen.
The issue I have is when I see management cracking the whip on preloaders, rushing them, telling them they're not fast enough, then kick them off the clock.

I wonder why there are misloads??
Why rush a guy making (maybe) 11.00/hr then have a driver making 45.00/hr run off misloads on the other side of town?

man sure you don't work at me hub?? lol about 3-4 weeks ago we had an issue with rushing us preloaders out by 8:10Am but work was still coming down and supervisors and upper mgt took over the rest while they sent people home early. They don't do that much anymore now that It was taken care of.
 

PAUPSER

Well-Known Member
man sure you don't work at me hub?? lol about 3-4 weeks ago we had an issue with rushing us preloaders out by 8:10Am but work was still coming down and supervisors and upper mgt took over the rest while they sent people home early. They don't do that much anymore now that It was taken care of.

How did you take care of this problem at your center. I need some good advice. Stuff like this has been happening a lot of the past 4 months and has only been getting worse.
 

705red

Browncafe Steward
Grievances! When they tell you to clock out do it. And than watch them work grab a witness or two and call your steward. If they worked 30 mins you now get paid 30 minutes at double time which eguals an hour, and you just sat by and earned free money!
 

Mike Hawk

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I think there are 48 package cars loaded on the boxline i work on. Unofficially i would guess we are averaging 30-35 misloads per week. We were told that the average misload cost UPS $60. In other words, our dock has $1800 worth of misloads per week.
Wouldn't it make sense to ad a few preloaders? It would seem that it would be a lot cheaper to reduce the workload on each loader so we have time to read the labels and have time to build a good load.

I started about 6 weeks ago. I am on what they call the training cage which is 4 trucks. I have had from 750 to 980 packages so far.
There are others on the dock pulling 5 trucks with 1000+ every day.

The other thing that adds to our workload is the add/cuts. It is a rare day that each loader doesn't have at least 1 add/cut.

I am not complaining. I actually don't mind the work.(the hours are bad though)
I just wonder if it wouldn't make more money for UPS to ad a few extra loaders.

That would be a good idea, too bad some guy at a computer in Atlanta decided ahead of time how many preloadrs your line gets. Preload supes almost never actually care about how bad their loads are, as long as they make their PPH they look like their doing their job, and thats what counts here.
 

tre305

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it all depends, if its a regular ground package they'd usually give it to another driver who hasnt left yet after PCM. otherwise, id scan it as a missed package, throw it back on the slide and it'll be delivered the next day, if it an next day air, i really dont know, but i know it'll definitely be delivered that day somehow.
 
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