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<blockquote data-quote="diesel96" data-source="post: 455491" data-attributes="member: 9859"><p>This thread looks like the climate equivalent of Custer's last stand. Doubters seem to have tried to find and validate every last skeptic on Earth. But by all means, go ahead, knock yourselves out, get together to talk to each other, it goes for good entertainment. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/laughing.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":laughing:" title="Laughing :laughing:" data-shortname=":laughing:" /></p><p> </p><p><strong><strong>Answers to Global Warming Skeptics</strong></strong></p><p> </p><p>Like the debate over <u><span style="color: #0000ff">Intelligent Design</span></u>, the controversy over global warming is being fought over in the popular media even though the consensus of the scientists who are actually researching climate change is that humans are having a greater impact on global warming than natural sources. As a measure of the certainty of this, major <em>insurance companies</em> are now revising their business projections to take the conclusions of the <u><span style="color: #0000ff">Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change</span></u> into account. (Insurance companies know very well how to make money on projections of real future events and they are not going to be swayed by any so-called "propaganda from tree-hugging environmentalists"—if the science conclusions are good enough for the insurance companies, then you may want to think twice, three times, many times, before discounting the IPCC conclusions.)</p><p>The overwhelming consensus of the scientific community (i.e., those who are actively engaged in climate research, publish their results in peer-reviewed journals, and allow their conclusions to be tested by others) is that the global warming that is happening is mostly human-caused by the burning of fossil fuels. Despite this consensus there is considerable debate among the general public. There is big disconnect between the scientists and the general public. The popular media is usually interested in fanning the flames of controversy instead of educating the public. Therefore, they will look for opponents of the scientific consensus to provide a "balanced view" and give equal credence to the global warming skeptics. The voices of the few (unqualified) are magnified to be equal to the voices of the many. Sigh!</p><p></p><p>Rather than giving arguments to counter all of the claims of the global warming skeptics on this page, here are links to those who have already done that work. All of the links to external sources will appear in a new window.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>New Scientist's feature on climath myths and misconceptions</strong> called "<em><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Climate change: A Guide for the Perplexed</span></u></em>". The feature looks at 26 common myths in the global warming controversy (remember the controversy exists primarily among the general public, not the scientific community).<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Human CO2 emissions are too tiny to matter</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">We can't do anything about climate change</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">The 'hockey stick' graph has been proven wrong</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Chaotic systems are not predictable</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">We can't trust computer models of climate</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">They predicted global cooling in the 1970s</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">It's been far warmer in the past, what's the big deal?</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">It's too cold where I live - warming will be great</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Global warming is due to the Sun, not humans</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">It’s all due to cosmic rays</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">CO2 isn't the most important greenhouse gas</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">The lower atmosphere is cooling, not warming</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Antarctica is getting cooler, not warmer, disproving global warming</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">The oceans are cooling</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">The cooling after 1940 shows CO2 does not cause warming</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">It was warmer during the Medieval period, with vineyards in England</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">We are simply recovering from the Little Ice Age</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Warming will cause an ice age in Europe</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Ice cores show CO2 increases lag behind temperature rises, disproving the link to global warming</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Ice cores show CO2 rising as temperatures fell</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Mars and Pluto are warming too</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Many leading scientists question climate change</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">It's all a conspiracy</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Hurricane Katrina was caused by global warming</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Higher CO2 levels will boost plant growth and food production</span></u></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><u><span style="color: #810081">Polar bear numbers are increasing</span></u></li> </ol></li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="diesel96, post: 455491, member: 9859"] This thread looks like the climate equivalent of Custer's last stand. Doubters seem to have tried to find and validate every last skeptic on Earth. But by all means, go ahead, knock yourselves out, get together to talk to each other, it goes for good entertainment. :laughing: [B][B]Answers to Global Warming Skeptics[/B][/B] Like the debate over [U][COLOR=#0000ff]Intelligent Design[/COLOR][/U], the controversy over global warming is being fought over in the popular media even though the consensus of the scientists who are actually researching climate change is that humans are having a greater impact on global warming than natural sources. As a measure of the certainty of this, major [I]insurance companies[/I] are now revising their business projections to take the conclusions of the [U][COLOR=#0000ff]Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change[/COLOR][/U] into account. (Insurance companies know very well how to make money on projections of real future events and they are not going to be swayed by any so-called "propaganda from tree-hugging environmentalists"—if the science conclusions are good enough for the insurance companies, then you may want to think twice, three times, many times, before discounting the IPCC conclusions.) The overwhelming consensus of the scientific community (i.e., those who are actively engaged in climate research, publish their results in peer-reviewed journals, and allow their conclusions to be tested by others) is that the global warming that is happening is mostly human-caused by the burning of fossil fuels. Despite this consensus there is considerable debate among the general public. There is big disconnect between the scientists and the general public. The popular media is usually interested in fanning the flames of controversy instead of educating the public. Therefore, they will look for opponents of the scientific consensus to provide a "balanced view" and give equal credence to the global warming skeptics. The voices of the few (unqualified) are magnified to be equal to the voices of the many. Sigh! Rather than giving arguments to counter all of the claims of the global warming skeptics on this page, here are links to those who have already done that work. All of the links to external sources will appear in a new window. [LIST] [*][B]New Scientist's feature on climath myths and misconceptions[/B] called "[I][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Climate change: A Guide for the Perplexed[/COLOR][/U][/I]". The feature looks at 26 common myths in the global warming controversy (remember the controversy exists primarily among the general public, not the scientific community). [LIST=1] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Human CO2 emissions are too tiny to matter[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]We can't do anything about climate change[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]The 'hockey stick' graph has been proven wrong[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Chaotic systems are not predictable[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]We can't trust computer models of climate[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]They predicted global cooling in the 1970s[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]It's been far warmer in the past, what's the big deal?[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]It's too cold where I live - warming will be great[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Global warming is due to the Sun, not humans[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]It’s all due to cosmic rays[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]CO2 isn't the most important greenhouse gas[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]The lower atmosphere is cooling, not warming[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Antarctica is getting cooler, not warmer, disproving global warming[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]The oceans are cooling[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]The cooling after 1940 shows CO2 does not cause warming[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]It was warmer during the Medieval period, with vineyards in England[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]We are simply recovering from the Little Ice Age[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Warming will cause an ice age in Europe[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Ice cores show CO2 increases lag behind temperature rises, disproving the link to global warming[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Ice cores show CO2 rising as temperatures fell[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Mars and Pluto are warming too[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Many leading scientists question climate change[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]It's all a conspiracy[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Hurricane Katrina was caused by global warming[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Higher CO2 levels will boost plant growth and food production[/COLOR][/U] [*][U][COLOR=#810081]Polar bear numbers are increasing[/COLOR][/U] [/LIST] [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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