Mr Fedex goes big time

vantexan

Well-Known Member
The potential fines could be more because fedex said they would fight the charges. UPS settled out of court.
fedex will probably settle too at some later date. It certainly won't be for 1.6 billion. I'm sure the company has its lobbyist working OT right now putting pressure on their congressman to call off the dogs.
But the Congressman can't call off Justice Dept dogs. Whether one likes him or not, Obama has already circumvented Congress on several issues, and on this he's within his rights to direct his Attorney General to go after FedEx. The San Francisco court didn't come up with this themselves, it had to be filed by the Justice Dept. The possible fines sounds very close to what Fred S said he'd increase profits by in 2016. Everyone knows to achieve that FedEx is and has been taking from the employees, including thwarting a union. The Teamsters and others may be pushing Obama to make an example out of FedEx. There's also the potential lawsuit the Republicans are threatening against Obama. The President may be firing a warning shot over their bow, indicating he's willing to play hardball with big Republican donors. And no MFE, didn't get this from FOX News or anyone else.
 

bbsam

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Staff member
Wasn't it a station in Atlanta that was basically wiped out of CSAs, drivers, dispatchers and managers because there was a ton of drugs going through the location? Investigation showed most everyone was in on it in some way.
how long ago?
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Memory is a bit foggy but I think it was around ten years ago. It was a big deal at the time because they had to scramble to pull people from other regions to cover.
And this is typical? Hmmmm. Y'all were Ground before Ground was Ground!;)
 

MAKAVELI

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But the Congressman can't call off Justice Dept dogs. Whether one likes him or not, Obama has already circumvented Congress on several issues, and on this he's within his rights to direct his Attorney General to go after FedEx. The San Francisco court didn't come up with this themselves, it had to be filed by the Justice Dept. The possible fines sounds very close to what Fred S said he'd increase profits by in 2016. Everyone knows to achieve that FedEx is and has been taking from the employees, including thwarting a union. The Teamsters and others may be pushing Obama to make an example out of FedEx. There's also the potential lawsuit the Republicans are threatening against Obama. The President may be firing a warning shot over their bow, indicating he's willing to play hardball with big Republican donors. And no MFE, didn't get this from FOX News or anyone else.
It was only a matter of time before you brought a Obama conspiracy theory into this. Apparently you missed the part that this went on from 2000- 2010. Guess who was president for 8 of those years?
 

vantexan

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It was only a matter of time before you brought a Obama conspiracy theory into this. Apparently you missed the part that this went on from 2000- 2010. Guess who was president for 8 of those years?
It's not a conspiracy theory. Boehner is threatening a lawsuit, and Obama may very well be playing hardball. Also it's Obama's Attorney General, not Bush's, that's filed the case. Do you think Bush's AT would've filed against Smith? And don't you find it interesting that the potential fines are so much more than the $40 million UPS paid, and are in line with the amount of profit Smith said he'd improve profits by? No? No connection at all? You don't think the two parties aren't going after each other?
 

MAKAVELI

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It's not a conspiracy theory. Boehner is threatening a lawsuit, and Obama may very well be playing hardball. Also it's Obama's Attorney General, not Bush's, that's filed the case. Do you think Bush's AT would've filed against Smith? And don't you find it interesting that the potential fines are so much more than the $40 million UPS paid, and are in line with the amount of profit Smith said he'd improve profits by? No? No connection at all? You don't think the two parties aren't going after each other?
It is a conspiracy theory at best. Of course Bush wouldn't have him prosecuted. You just made my point. As far as the fine goes. The indictment claimed FedEx may have made $820 million from these illegal shipments and they can double that amount for a penalty. UPS was smart enough to pay a settlement and put it behind them. FedEx just opened Pandora 's box. You just sound more ridiculous every time you try to make some wild conspiracy theory out of everything. Bottom line is, if FedEx is guilty of these charges they should pay for it.
 

vantexan

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It is a conspiracy theory at best. Of course Bush wouldn't have him prosecuted. You just made my point. As far as the fine goes. The indictment claimed FedEx may have made $820 million from these illegal shipments and they can double that amount for a penalty. UPS was smart enough to pay a settlement and put it behind them. FedEx just opened Pandora 's box. You just sound more ridiculous every time you try to make some wild conspiracy theory out of everything. Bottom line is, if FedEx is guilty of these charges they should pay for it.
You are interpreting what I'm saying the wrong way. I'm not going after Obama here. But right now the Republican leadership is threatening a lawsuit against Obama because he has gone beyond Constitutional limitations on the Presidency. Think not? The Supreme Court just voted 9-0 against Obama's recess appointments because it's not his right to say that the Senate is in recess. Only the Senate leadership has that right and even the liberal justices voted against him. He has changed certain aspects of Obamacare to suit his purposes but only Congress has the right to amend laws. He can only sign into law or veto it. This is what the lawsuit is about. Think Obama is just going to take it lying down? If he has a major Republican donor over a barrel he may use that as leverage in a back room deal. Sorry, but I've been following politics for a long time and what they want the public to see and what goes on behind closed doors are two very different things. No conspiracies, it's just, as Chris Matthews would say, hardball. They have the right to go after FedEx for the $1.6 Billion but if they settle for considerably less it will be contingent on agreements worked out in private. It certainly isn't about the Obama administration's concerns over FedEx enabling drug dealers. Think drug dealers haven't been using FedEx and UPS forever, not just the years you've mentioned? What steps has UPS taken to prevent such use after paying that fine? Did it go away after paying the $40 million? If FedEx starts requiring every pkg to be examined before acceptance think we could continue as an overnight service?
 

bbsam

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Staff member
van, if what you are saying is right, there's no reason for Fred to pay. Tie it up in court and run out the clock and see what happens with the next justice department.
 

vantexan

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van, if what you are saying is right, there's no reason for Fred to pay. Tie it up in court and run out the clock and see what happens with the next justice department.
Which with the high end attorneys FedEx employs that could very well happen.
 

MAKAVELI

Well-Known Member
But the Congressman can't call off Justice Dept dogs. Whether one likes him or not, Obama has already circumvented Congress on several issues, and on this he's within his rights to direct his Attorney General to go after FedEx. The San Francisco court didn't come up with this themselves, it had to be filed by the Justice Dept. The possible fines sounds very close to what Fred S said he'd increase profits by in 2016. Everyone knows to achieve that FedEx is and has been taking from the employees, including thwarting a union. The Teamsters and others may be pushing Obama to make an example out of FedEx. There's also the potential lawsuit the Republicans are threatening against Obama. The President may be firing a warning shot over their bow, indicating he's willing to play hardball with big Republican donors. And no MFE, didn't get this from FOX News or anyone else.
Don't worry, the Hillary Clinton administration will follow through with this prosecution.:cool:
 

!Retired!

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I know of an operation where the handlers went through the cans on Saturdays looking for residentials, which they would then open with a razor blade and examine the contents. If the package contained drugs, they would take them and re-sell, knowing the customer would never follow-up on the lost contents. Management, couriers, CSAs and RTDs...all involved. This is not the only location where this happened.
You sure 'know' a lot for someone who's just a courier
 

whenIgetthere

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There is also a station in the northeast where multiple employees were suspended (never heard if any firings, yet) a few months ago due to some shenanigans with Verizon deliveries.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
There is also a station in the northeast where multiple employees were suspended (never heard if any firings, yet) a few months ago due to some shenanigans with Verizon deliveries.

There are dozens of scandals, most of which have been skillfully covered-up. Some involve drugs, others theft. The one continuous theme is that FedEx doesn't want it in the media, so they terminate and don't prosecute.
 

dezguy

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If you are an upper level mgr you'd never get close enough to a can to see handlers opening pkgs, lol.

Whenever talking heads come to our sta from HQ they usually check out the sort for at least 5 minutes. They're very easy to spot; usually the guy standing next to the managers, one hand in their pocket, the other holding a coffee.
 
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