MrFedEx's Nightmare

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by wkmac, Mar 4, 2012.

  1. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Where Are All the Libertarians Coming From?

    And The Nightmare Gets Even Better!

    But MFE will have to share his crying towel with the GOPers on this one!

    How many of these new libertarain minds will begin to take libertarianism to it's ultimate conclusions and the means of getting there?
  2. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Oh dear god, no!
  3. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    :rofl: Good one!
  4. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    Libertarianism IS a nightmare, but your numbers are so low that there isn't any real threat to sanity...yet. If Ron Paul has so much support, why has he been a dismal failure in the primaries? If you insert Rand Paul into the equation, he's so crazy that most people see that the fruit hasn't fallen far from the tree, and that it is also rotten.

    The "ultimate conclusion" of Libertarianism is implosion, as more and more people realize how irrelevant and unworkable the philosophy really is. It belongs in a giant bubble on the moon, where you can all snuff each other out in an all-out battle of "personal responsibility" and unrestricted freedom. Then we won't have to listen to the crazies any more.
  5. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    If "Libertarianism" ever actually grows to the point where it's a political player, I suspect it will co-opted in the same manner that the tea party was. Note how the Koch brothers are already working on gaining full control of Cato.
  6. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    True but then if it follows to it's conclusions by de-centralizing and thus de-powers centers of political powers, it becomes a bit more problematic to co-opt said power. The Koch's have mostly owned Cato since day one, google Kochtopus for that history, but the growing trends in libertarianism as opposed to Libertarianism and Ron Paul not withstanding, is away from political libertarianism which keeps power centered and towards philosophical libertarianism which disdains political power over people and markets. This is what has the Koch's and other partyarchs scared and out to control to keep the 2 party statism together so they can maintain heirarchy and ownership and thus their own state privilege upon which their own wealth is built. They are in truth statists of the first order.

    The great debate is which one will prevail and thus your point valid in that political perspective following a purely political outcome of party politics is maintained. Following the argument that the Koch's and corp. capitalism like libertarianism, I ask the question, where is all those big bucks at in the Ron Paul campaign? Being those dollars are in fact in the other candidates and Obama's campaign coffers, the very "Libertarianism" that MFE squawks and bleats about, seems that form of "Libertarianism" is actually backing his guy and the other republican sock puppet wanna-bees!

    Speaks Volumes!
  7. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Hey, I have an idea. Let's look back in history and see what happened to all the puritans of ideology in the sixties? You remember the ones, always talking about peace and love and stuff? They graduated college and shall we say...assimilated. They became the upper middle class CEOs and movers and shakers of the eighties and nineties. Now, what makes you think this brand of ideology will remain any more pure once the reality of the borg begins to grind it down into the pragmatism of struggling through daily life?
  8. av8torntn

    av8torntn Well-Known Member

    But for years all we've heard is that Ron Paul(a self proclaimed libertarian) is so bad because he does not compromise. He has been in the collective for a very long time.
  9. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Hard not to compromise as king.