Multiple simple questions.

Discussion in 'Introductions and Welcomes' started by Cody1820, Jul 6, 2016.

  1. Cody1820

    Cody1820 Member

    Hey glad to have found a forum for upsers.
    I work preload for package cars. I done it seasonal and now was rehired almost two months ago permanent. I make 11 per hour and am still paying union dues. Just want to fact check my research.
    30 days after being hired is my seniority date? Correct?
    I make 11 per hour and according to the agreement will basically get a 50 cent raise after seniority plus one year for the next 4 years? Correct?
    "What happens after 4 years?"

    I am still paying dues at 20 per week and will make what's referred to as "book" once I have paid my initiation dues in full? Correct?

    After making book I will be given 3.5 hours a day, 5 days a week.
    Right now I'm pretty much off every Monday and don't get paid for that day because I haven't made book yet I assume?

    Thank you all for your help.

    Any other helpful advice is welcome.
     
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  2. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    It's seniority Dude!
    You will not be guaranteed 5 days a week until someone with less seniority is hired.
    You will be guaranteed 3.5 hours a day when working once you reach seniority.

    You will need to refer to your local supplement to confirm the rest but it sounds right for many Locals.
     
  3. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.

    Somebody has been feeling feisty lately.
     
  4. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Too damn hot to be outside and it was pouring rain today.
    I did get to work outside for a couple of hours between storms.
    Too old and fat to deal with 90°+ heat when I don't have to.
     
  5. MC4YOU2

    MC4YOU2 Yep, not wearing brown anymore

    Your seniority date, while still part time, is your actual hire date. You attain seniority after 30 working days, in most areas but not all. Check your local supplement to be certain.

    If you later go full time, your seniority date will probably change to a "blended" date, between your hire date and your date of attaining "full time" seniority in your new position.

    Your actual hire date will always be important though, in any case.
     
  6. sailfish

    sailfish Having way too much fun.

    I would hope that "blended" date thing is real. Around here I'm pretty sure someone could work part time for ten years but if an "off the street" full timer is hired before they make full time themselves, they get f*ed because that new guy is considered more senior than the original guy simply because of his full time date.
     
  7. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.

    Yeah, I spent much of the afternoon playing squirt guns with the grandson in the pool and drinking beer.

    Only mid 90's here.
     
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  8. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    To OP, if that is your real name please change it. You will pay an initiation fee in installments until it is paid in full. You will pay union dues once a month, I believe. Your supplement will state how many days you need to work before you attain seniority. Your hire date, or first day worked will be your seniority date once you pass probation. When you have worked four years from your hire date you will be at top scale. The next increase in your pay after that will be the GWI's, or general wage increases in the next contract, (if any). You will attain seniority once you pass your probation. Making book is more of a driver term. After you attain seniority you will have a 3.5 hour guarantee as a part time employee, but you will need to request it if they try to send you home before that.
     
  9. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    If the company's next hire is in accordance with the 6 to 1 ratio then no one is getting effed over.
     
  10. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    The first day you drive will be your seniority date, because you've already attained seniority before as a part timer.
     
  11. MC4YOU2

    MC4YOU2 Yep, not wearing brown anymore

    And that's also surely possible, depending on where he's at. Here, they blend the two dates using a fairly confusing formula.
     
  12. MC4YOU2

    MC4YOU2 Yep, not wearing brown anymore

    I was hired in late summer, started driving in late summer, but got a blended date in the spring. It actually was beneficial for my whole career for vacation picks.
     
  13. MC4YOU2

    MC4YOU2 Yep, not wearing brown anymore

    The blend is a real thing here, but ft seniority still tops pt seniority in most cases. The blend won't cut 10 years in half and give anyone a date, say 5 years back. All it does is move to a median point over, I believe, the twelve months prior.

    I always felt sorry for those who got their date moved into like, October or November. They'd have to roll weeks of vacay into the following year and save them up to qualify for something like Labor Day week or Memorial Day week off.
     
  14. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    If they blend the two dates there, is it a date later than the date a full time driver would make book?
     
  15. rod

    rod retired and happy


    I can't remember---are you part of the crowd who brags about how nice the weather is in their area in the winter?
     
  16. Cody1820

    Cody1820 Member

    Yes thats my first name... Is that like a rule? Just curious? Thank you for the information.
     
  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    First names are OK.

    Full names are not.
     
  18. Cody1820

    Cody1820 Member

    The first day I drive will be running air mail on Saturday. Is that any different? Or do you mean the first day I drive as a full time driver? Which only happens if you get the bid on a dedicated route. Correct? Also you referred to my supplement? What is that?
     
  19. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.

    OMG. Find a senior person or a steward in your building and ask.

    The answers will be more specific to your area than any you will get here.
     
  20. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    This is really good, solid advice.

    Anyone giving a "solid" answer on here is most likely right for them but not for you.