My 30 day probation period ended today, now what?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by snarts, Apr 15, 2016.

  1. snarts

    snarts Member

    I'm a preloader and in my center it takes 40 days to make the union. My probationary period ended today but I wasn't told anything by my supervisor today. Does anyone know if I should expect anything Monday?
     
  2. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    If they haven't said anything, then you have passed your probationary period.
     
  3. snarts

    snarts Member

    What does passing my probationary period mean exactly? Does it mean I'm guaranteed a permanent spot? Could I not still be sent home/fired the next 10 days before I make book if they wanted to?
     
  4. jibbs

    jibbs Long Live the Chief

    Passing probation means you're now a permanent employee, yes, but even permanent employees can be fired or sent home. The biggest difference is now you can actually bitch about it and actively try to make changes without having to worry about your employment status being retaliated upon. Probationary employees basically need to shut up and do what they're told, because they can be let go for damn near any reason while they're on probation. Now that you've made it through that period, just don't do anything illegal on the clock and you likely have a job for life... if you want it.



    Side-note, though-- some new workers get tripped up on the difference between 30 days and 30 working days. It may vary from region to region, but where I'm at it took 30 working days to get through probation, which was pretty much like a month and a half of work instead of an even month.

    Just pointing that out in case nobody had for you before.
     
  5. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    Wouldn't 40 days to make the union mean the probation period is also 40 days? 30 working days and then waiting 10 more days to join doesn't really make sense.
     
  6. hondo

    hondo promoted to mediocrity

    Where to start,,,,

    'Probationary period', 'making book', 'joining the union', 'attaining seniority' all pretty much mean the same thing. From what you've posted, it takes 40 working days, or 8 weeks if you work every day. Days spent in orientation/training may or may not count. I have a feeling you are still 10 days (or more) short of that. So yes, you could still be sent home/fired if they want.

    There may or may not be any acknowledgement when you do make it. Although you mentioned elsewhere that you were listed as 'trainee' on a list, that should be dropped.

    But once you do make it, yes, you are guaranteed a permanent spot. You should have your daily start times posted in advance (see your union contract for specifics). A guaranteed minimum hours of work daily (usually 3.5 hours). The list of what they can fire you for without progressive discipline (verbal/written warnings, suspension) is listed in the union contract. Things like fighting, stealing, being under the influence (or possessing) drugs/alcohol on company property.

    You start earning vacation time and credit towards a pension (see union contract for requirements-typically a minimum # of hours worked in a year). If you get called for jury duty or have a death in your immediate family, you get paid time off for that. Also, bidding rights for things like extra work, different part time (or full time) jobs. There may be a credit union you can join (typically better for your banking needs than a bank or savings & loan). Also can start saving money in a 401k (sorry, no employer match).

    Unfortunately there are other benefits you have to wait one year for, such as: paid holidays/personal days/sick days, medical/dental/vision insurance.

    You also become eligible to participate in the union meetings and vote on things like electing people to union positions, and the next contract when it comes up for renegotiation.
     
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  7. snarts

    snarts Member

    I see, thanks for the informative response
     
  8. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    Some of the benefits that you mentioned that the employee will have to wait a year for do vary by contract, and state law for time off.
     
  9. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    Keep your mouth shut about this to mgt .
    They may have a different opinion about how many days needed .
    And the last thing you want to do now is piss them off . Give it a few more months before mentioning it out loud .
     
  10. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Plus, you are not going to get a cake or a pat on the back or any of that. The day you are permanent will be just like the day before and will more than likely be just like the next day.
     
  11. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    IN our building when you make your 30 days they bring in a petting zoo and a bouncy house along with cake and ice cream.
     
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  12. Covemastah

    Covemastah Suspension Ovah !!! Tom is free FU Goodell !!

    @Cementups
    That's all ??
    We had strippers , lap dances and beers in the 80's
     
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  13. hondo

    hondo promoted to mediocrity

    Concessions?
     
  14. They did buy us beers for the challenge of the 80's meetings. Very high participation rate of drivers.
     
  15. Covemastah

    Covemastah Suspension Ovah !!! Tom is free FU Goodell !!

    I remember those
     
  16. Remember when you sup you to ride with you a few times a year and buy you lunch?
    Gave you a descent day and a better attitude.
     
  17. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    Draining of paycheck.

    On the positive side, it's good mental preparation for a future divorce settlement.
     
  18. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    The 90's and the pussification of America made them get rid of that.
     
  19. Maybe in your local supplement.

    Just vote No.
     
  20. MendozaJ

    MendozaJ Active Member

    If you're on the same page with management, no one needs to mention anything. They already know. It's up to you to sign with the union.