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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1274412" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Cheryl, </p><p></p><p>Those points have been pointed out to TOS and others, I appreciate your efforts but TOS has proven to be a waste of time. And not that he's alone either and I also speak of some here of the opposite political narrative. TOS like others are trapped in the very false dilemma of politics he/they advocate. </p><p></p><p>TOS rightly points out Bush and his supporters who made excuse after excuse and now he does the same with Obama. He and others are trapped into doing exactly what they were critical of under Bush and now republicans are critical of those things they supported under Bush now being done by Obama. It's not about right or wrong, it's about power and then keeping it by any means necessary. Right is my side and wrong is your side regardless of what the side is doing to begin with. Sad that both sides are right on some levels but only when they are out of power so to speak and then sell their soul once they have it back.</p><p></p><p>He spoke of so-called "progressives" and that in itself is a loaded term (labels typically are) but there are those principled voices on the left which have been equally critical of Obama and the democrats just as they were of Bush and republicans. And there were voices of the old/paleo right who were critical of Bush much in the same voice as the old/paleo left now. Funny how those ideals seem to merge together as to form a bi-partisan middle. </p><p></p><p>The republican/democrat narrative of TOS and others here IMHO is a textbook example of hypocrisy and never disappoints in continuing to prove itself so.</p><p></p><p>As to the NSA and the surveil state, last month the maverick democrat Congressman <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/21/nyregion/otis-pike-congressman-who-took-on-cia-dies-at-92.html?_r=0" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Otis Pike</strong></span></a> of NY passed away and his history and great fight is worth the read. He and democrat Senator Frank Church went a long way in exposing the treachery that is the federal state.</p><p></p><p>And for those still wedded to the <a href="http://reason.com/archives/2013/06/12/three-reasons-the-nothing-to-hide-crowd/2" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>"I have nothing to hide"</strong></span></a> thinking.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1274412, member: 2189"] Cheryl, Those points have been pointed out to TOS and others, I appreciate your efforts but TOS has proven to be a waste of time. And not that he's alone either and I also speak of some here of the opposite political narrative. TOS like others are trapped in the very false dilemma of politics he/they advocate. TOS rightly points out Bush and his supporters who made excuse after excuse and now he does the same with Obama. He and others are trapped into doing exactly what they were critical of under Bush and now republicans are critical of those things they supported under Bush now being done by Obama. It's not about right or wrong, it's about power and then keeping it by any means necessary. Right is my side and wrong is your side regardless of what the side is doing to begin with. Sad that both sides are right on some levels but only when they are out of power so to speak and then sell their soul once they have it back. He spoke of so-called "progressives" and that in itself is a loaded term (labels typically are) but there are those principled voices on the left which have been equally critical of Obama and the democrats just as they were of Bush and republicans. And there were voices of the old/paleo right who were critical of Bush much in the same voice as the old/paleo left now. Funny how those ideals seem to merge together as to form a bi-partisan middle. The republican/democrat narrative of TOS and others here IMHO is a textbook example of hypocrisy and never disappoints in continuing to prove itself so. As to the NSA and the surveil state, last month the maverick democrat Congressman [URL='http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/21/nyregion/otis-pike-congressman-who-took-on-cia-dies-at-92.html?_r=0'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]Otis Pike[/B][/COLOR][/URL] of NY passed away and his history and great fight is worth the read. He and democrat Senator Frank Church went a long way in exposing the treachery that is the federal state. And for those still wedded to the [URL='http://reason.com/archives/2013/06/12/three-reasons-the-nothing-to-hide-crowd/2'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]"I have nothing to hide"[/B][/COLOR][/URL] thinking. [/QUOTE]
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