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<blockquote data-quote="Working4TheBene&#039;s" data-source="post: 199091" data-attributes="member: 5903"><p>I think the question of do i or do i not become management has been and will be a long debated issue. </p><p></p><p>Many people that offer their advice of not becoming management may have never tried or been offered the opportunity. Face it, UPS in general, is not for everyone. That's why there is such a high turnover rate. So first of all, congratulations on lasting 14 months. Most new hires usually only last between 1 day to a couple of weeks. Depending on what shift you are on, the hours can be brutal. </p><p></p><p>With that said, I am not advocating whether you should or shouldn't take the opportunity, but know that within UPS there are many types of employees, from all walks of life and all working for different reasons. Part of being management is not only being a supervisor to your employees, but to be an effective supervisor, you have to be able to lead. And not everyone can lead. I'm from the school of thought that if you can help people see and believe, then they will help and go that extra mile whenever possible. Some people are cut out to be in management, and some aren't.</p><p></p><p>Management on rare occasions will recognize hard work, but on the flip side, will definitely pick up on people that have a high misload count, and for that matter, those that are spa people are also singled out if there are pal errors.... So as far as management opportunities go, I think most upper managers like the center manager/full time supes already have an idea of whom they would like to fill any open part-time supe spots with in advance. But the process is usually where you have to fill out a letter of intent and give it to your hr rep. From there, he/she will follow up with the full time supe/center mgr. If they are interested in you and there are any openings, then they will proceed with processing you thru the MAPP process.</p><p></p><p>My personal opinion is to take the opportunity as it arise. And if you are not currently enrolled at a university/college, you may want to consider the tuition reimbursement that they offer... and btw, the part-time supes get a little more than the hourlies. Just be aware that as with any job, there will be lots of up and lots of downs. As far the the physical work is concerned, you will do slightly less physical work (on many days when you have a full crew) but you'll have to deal with more mental stress. The off thing about many of the part-time supes is that they do not have any other management experience to fall back on, so when things get a little rough, they do not know how to handle those situations - but that is always a catch22, you can't get mgmt experience if you don't get hired as a manager.</p><p></p><p>If I were you, I would at least summit my letter of intent, you can always so no to the opportunity if your number is called up. You can consider the pros and cons, but it comes down to the belief if you can do the job or not. I've known supervisors that have been asked to go thru the MAPP process only after being on the job for three months, some good, some not. And there are those that have been on the job for years, and they still cannot do their hourly job properly. So the time on the job matters up to a point, but it depends on if you are a quick learner and can pick up information/instruction well as well have some good common sense. It's a lot like being on a team... you'll have your all-stars, veterans, rookies, all all in between. Knowing how to communicate and motivate all of them is the trick.</p><p></p><p>In the end, there are employees/supervisors/managers and then there are leaders.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Working4TheBene's, post: 199091, member: 5903"] I think the question of do i or do i not become management has been and will be a long debated issue. Many people that offer their advice of not becoming management may have never tried or been offered the opportunity. Face it, UPS in general, is not for everyone. That's why there is such a high turnover rate. So first of all, congratulations on lasting 14 months. Most new hires usually only last between 1 day to a couple of weeks. Depending on what shift you are on, the hours can be brutal. With that said, I am not advocating whether you should or shouldn't take the opportunity, but know that within UPS there are many types of employees, from all walks of life and all working for different reasons. Part of being management is not only being a supervisor to your employees, but to be an effective supervisor, you have to be able to lead. And not everyone can lead. I'm from the school of thought that if you can help people see and believe, then they will help and go that extra mile whenever possible. Some people are cut out to be in management, and some aren't. Management on rare occasions will recognize hard work, but on the flip side, will definitely pick up on people that have a high misload count, and for that matter, those that are spa people are also singled out if there are pal errors.... So as far as management opportunities go, I think most upper managers like the center manager/full time supes already have an idea of whom they would like to fill any open part-time supe spots with in advance. But the process is usually where you have to fill out a letter of intent and give it to your hr rep. From there, he/she will follow up with the full time supe/center mgr. If they are interested in you and there are any openings, then they will proceed with processing you thru the MAPP process. My personal opinion is to take the opportunity as it arise. And if you are not currently enrolled at a university/college, you may want to consider the tuition reimbursement that they offer... and btw, the part-time supes get a little more than the hourlies. Just be aware that as with any job, there will be lots of up and lots of downs. As far the the physical work is concerned, you will do slightly less physical work (on many days when you have a full crew) but you'll have to deal with more mental stress. The off thing about many of the part-time supes is that they do not have any other management experience to fall back on, so when things get a little rough, they do not know how to handle those situations - but that is always a catch22, you can't get mgmt experience if you don't get hired as a manager. If I were you, I would at least summit my letter of intent, you can always so no to the opportunity if your number is called up. You can consider the pros and cons, but it comes down to the belief if you can do the job or not. I've known supervisors that have been asked to go thru the MAPP process only after being on the job for three months, some good, some not. And there are those that have been on the job for years, and they still cannot do their hourly job properly. So the time on the job matters up to a point, but it depends on if you are a quick learner and can pick up information/instruction well as well have some good common sense. It's a lot like being on a team... you'll have your all-stars, veterans, rookies, all all in between. Knowing how to communicate and motivate all of them is the trick. In the end, there are employees/supervisors/managers and then there are leaders. [/QUOTE]
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