Net Neutrality

Sportello

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http://gizmodo.com/noted-:censored:-rand-paul-wants-to-kill-net-neutrality-1701200879

"The Internet has successfully flourished without the heavy hand of government interference."

Nope! The internet has long been regulated by existing communications laws, however minimally. The FCC classified broadband as an information service back in 2002, after the dot com bubble burst, and imposed a specific set of regulations that’s governed the internet for the past decade and a half.
 

cheryl

I started this.
Staff member
Now the Senate's Trying to Torpedo Net Neutrality - Free Press

No member of Congress should be allowed to dismantle good public policy by sneaking language into funding bills. But that’s exactly what’s been happening in the latest attack on Net Neutrality.

This “legislation by appropriation” tactic is a convenient way for the cable and phone lobbies to accomplish their agenda on Capitol Hill. In contrast to the FCC, whose policymakers don’t rely on campaign contributions to keep their jobs, Congress is a place where industry's used to getting things done.

In June, three riders that would unravel the FCC’s Net Neutrality rules were introduced into a House appropriations bill — a bill that needs to pass to keep the government operating. The riders include provisions that would put the rules on hold until all lawsuits challenging these protections have been resolved. There’s also broad language that would prevent the agency from protecting consumers from fraudulent billing practices or investigating “zero rating” schemes that prioritize certain applications over others by not counting those applications against data caps.
 

BrownArmy

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Well, kiss your internet privacy goodbye...

I sure am glad my ISP can now legally sell my information to the highest bidder (geolocation, purchasing history, medical information, SS#, etc.)

VPN, anyone?
 

BrownArmy

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I guess I wouldn't care so much if I wasn't PAYING my ISP for the service I am currently using to reply to my own post.

So, I pay (my current ISP) for the ability to access the internet, and now, they can turn around and sell everything I search for to the open market?

It's a cliche that if you're getting something for free (Face:censored2:, Google), then you are the product.

So, why, if I'm paying for Internet service, should I be the product?

If I search for 'diabetes', will I be denied insurance coverage because my ISP sold my browser history to the 'insurers' ?

If I search for 'IVF', will I be denied insurance coverage for fertility treatments?

If I search for 'How to assemble a handgun', will I be visited by ATF?

Big issue!

Seems to me, no matter which side of the aisle you're on, this is a straight mess.

Sad.
 

wkmac

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The fact that they are selling your search history for money making reasons is another reason from time to time to go way off the reservation and search some really weird $chitt like for example how they make easter eggs on an easter egg farm.

The more we overload their servers with worthless BS, the more worthless it makes their investment for gathering data.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
I guess I wouldn't care so much if I wasn't PAYING my ISP for the service I am currently using to reply to my own post.

So, I pay (my current ISP) for the ability to access the internet, and now, they can turn around and sell everything I search for to the open market?

It's a cliche that if you're getting something for free (Face:censored2:, Google), then you are the product.

So, why, if I'm paying for Internet service, should I be the product?

If I search for 'diabetes', will I be denied insurance coverage because my ISP sold my browser history to the 'insurers' ?

If I search for 'IVF', will I be denied insurance coverage for fertility treatments?

If I search for 'How to assemble a handgun', will I be visited by ATF?

Big issue!

Seems to me, no matter which side of the aisle you're on, this is a straight mess.

Sad.

I see a premium for ISPs that protect your privacy.

I applaud the app whatsapp that provides end-to-end encryption.
:censored2: the Central US Government goons.
 

BrownArmy

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I see a premium for ISPs that protect your privacy.

I applaud the app whatsapp that provides end-to-end encryption.
:censored2: the Central US Government goons.

That's interesting, but is seems to me we shouldn't have to go to the ends of the earth to protect our privacy.

Used to be, 'Republicans' were into privacy...now, it seems, not so much.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
That's interesting, but is seems to me we shouldn't have to go to the ends of the earth to protect our privacy.

Used to be, 'Republicans' were into privacy...now, it seems, not so much.
The Republicans have never been into privacy that I can remember.
Remember, they want to know what you are doing in your bedroom.
VPN's, End to end encryption and other privacy tools will become very prevalent and make a few billionaires.
 

BrownArmy

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...The more we overload their servers with worthless BS, the more worthless it makes their investment for gathering data.

I envision a site you log in on, and once you do, it immediately smears your web-search history with the entire gamut:

Lesbian sex-toys organic farming woodworking Estonian metal-work are ducks good comfort animals can men have babies should I get an MRI am I gay midget porn...on and on and on

Like you say, 'flood' the market, so to speak
 

BrownArmy

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The Republicans have never been into privacy that I can remember.
Remember, they want to know what you are doing in your bedroom.
VPN's, End to end encryption and other privacy tools will become very prevalent and make a few billionaires.

Correct.

(about the VPN's et al)
 

BrownArmy

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The Republicans have never been into privacy that I can remember.
Remember, they want to know what you are doing in your bedroom.
VPN's, End to end encryption and other privacy tools will become very prevalent and make a few billionaires.

At this rate, we'll never get off-planet...
 

wkmac

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I envision a site you log in on, and once you do, it immediately smears your web-search history with the entire gamut:

Lesbian sex-toys organic farming woodworking Estonian metal-work are ducks good comfort animals can men have babies should I get an MRI am I gay midget porn...on and on and on

Like you say, 'flood' the market, so to speak

In a sense, yes.

How to fart green beans tire pressure at 35 psi passing overflated football big toe butt picking how to fluff bbsam in 10 posts or less Rod smells monkey butt monkey butt fluffs Rod.....on and on and on!

And nice Avatar of Cliff Burton.
 

wkmac

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That's interesting, but is seems to me we shouldn't have to go to the ends of the earth to protect our privacy.

Used to be, 'Republicans' were into privacy...now, it seems, not so much.

Funny what happens when you hold power as opposed to when you didn't!

Democrats have been known to advocate for protecting privacy at one time as well but seems both parties these days are truly horrible when it comes to that.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
The fact that they are selling your search history for money making reasons is another reason from time to time to go way off the reservation and search some really weird ...

The more we overload their servers with worthless BS, the more worthless it makes their investment for gathering data.
Now NF2 and Gumby have purpose!
 

rickyb

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guys try torbrowser.

Electronic frontier foundation is a good resource if you need advice on internet privacy. i am guilty of not using torbrowser enough.

i saw glenn greenwald tweet that republican supporters were going crazy on breitbart because they realized their "representatives" are serving their financial backers.
 
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