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<blockquote data-quote="FAVREFAN" data-source="post: 666479" data-attributes="member: 13078"><p>The bills haven't even been combined yet. They need to combine/consolidate and make concessions to come to a full bill agreement. The House and Senate have very different versions. As of 12:15 today(here's your "sources" you so deperately need) on CNBC they are argueing over if money will be raised through a 5% additional tax on individuals making over $500,000 per year on money grossed over that $500,000 number. Or by taxing so called "Cadillac" plans which are at the lowest number being considered $23,000 cost per year. Those would only be taxed on benefits over the $23,000 amount. UPS doesn't even come anywhere near $23,000 health care premiums per employee. And I am pretty damn sure you don't make $500,000. So either way, your not paying for it, I'm not paying for it and UPS won't pay any extra for it either. That's where it stands at the moment.</p><p> </p><p>From a personal point of view....I don't support the current structures of what they are trying to do. I have many, many relatives in Canada, Ireland and some in Australia......and they love their national healthcare. They pay higher taxes but it is well worth it to them. And no....they don't wait for service or get surgeries in cold wet basements with one light bulb dangling from the ceiling. Without a "public option" where the government can gaurantee lower costs against what the private sector charges.....little will change. It's a start, but not a solution. I end my argueing with you here. What is great is that we are both Americans and we are lucky to have the right to disagree. Let's be happy in that. </p><p>Let me start a different firestorm here. Everyone is crying about this healthcare cost or the "bailout". I want my $2.2Trillion dollars from Iraq and Afganistan back.(As of 12/31/2009) O.k. I'm gonna take cover now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FAVREFAN, post: 666479, member: 13078"] The bills haven't even been combined yet. They need to combine/consolidate and make concessions to come to a full bill agreement. The House and Senate have very different versions. As of 12:15 today(here's your "sources" you so deperately need) on CNBC they are argueing over if money will be raised through a 5% additional tax on individuals making over $500,000 per year on money grossed over that $500,000 number. Or by taxing so called "Cadillac" plans which are at the lowest number being considered $23,000 cost per year. Those would only be taxed on benefits over the $23,000 amount. UPS doesn't even come anywhere near $23,000 health care premiums per employee. And I am pretty damn sure you don't make $500,000. So either way, your not paying for it, I'm not paying for it and UPS won't pay any extra for it either. That's where it stands at the moment. From a personal point of view....I don't support the current structures of what they are trying to do. I have many, many relatives in Canada, Ireland and some in Australia......and they love their national healthcare. They pay higher taxes but it is well worth it to them. And no....they don't wait for service or get surgeries in cold wet basements with one light bulb dangling from the ceiling. Without a "public option" where the government can gaurantee lower costs against what the private sector charges.....little will change. It's a start, but not a solution. I end my argueing with you here. What is great is that we are both Americans and we are lucky to have the right to disagree. Let's be happy in that. Let me start a different firestorm here. Everyone is crying about this healthcare cost or the "bailout". I want my $2.2Trillion dollars from Iraq and Afganistan back.(As of 12/31/2009) O.k. I'm gonna take cover now. [/QUOTE]
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