cachsux
Wah
Like dragging your feet here, standing a minute there? The 180* version of coming in early for free is the not actually doing work when you're supposed to. That's called stealing time.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Like dragging your feet here, standing a minute there? The 180* version of coming in early for free is the not actually doing work when you're supposed to. That's called stealing time.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
StongUPSThroughCompliance
20 Year Package Car Driver
No where in this thread did I say I don't know how to file. I've done so plenty and now I have to yearly to get on the 9.5 list (that's how they do it in my hub). However, I've only filed on things that are between me and management, not involving other employees. But hey, thanks for proving my point on how UPS loves it when drivers are at each other.
StongUPSThroughCompliance
20 Year Package Car Driver
Thanks upstate for a straight forward answer to one of the questions I asked. I really wanted to know how the hotline works or doesn't.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
The hotline would not be the appropriate venue for this type of contract "violation".
StongUPSThroughCompliance
20 Year Package Car Driver
This most definitely is going to be a problem for UPS. The law does not say UPS has to force someone to work off the clock to be in the wrong. It says that UPS only has to know about it and not put a stop to it. If these drivers did not work hours off the clock (Yes some come in at 7 for a 845 start) then UPS would have to put in more routes and hire more drivers. But just so I get you straight, I'm in the wrong for wanting this to stop but the drivers helping management without getting paid for it are the good workers. OK
You're fairly new you'll learn. Late air tough. If they don't give you time that's their fault. I will be paid for all of my time working simple as that. If you're not paid for all your time working there is no one to blame other than yourself.
ChickenLegs
Safety Expert
You are your local - grow a pair and stand up for your brothers and sisters.
You may be hesitant to because you think this is "you against your co-workers" but it's not. It's you, others, and the union vs the company. The company is letting this happen. Letting people work off the clock so they don't have to change start times or hire someone else.
As I said before mind your own friend-ing business or be prepared for what happens after. It is cheaper for UPS to pay you over time than to hire more people you as can't work enough OT in a week because of DOT rules to make it so that UPS is losing money on paying you OT. So your theory about them hiring more people and putting more routes is BS.
You only can set your car up so much then packages start getting in the way. I pull over a couple of times a day and take 5 - 10 minutes and sort which over the course o the day save me well more then the time that I sorted. But I still only can sort so much because of lack of open shelve space.
Pkgcar1988
Well-Known Member
When I first started driving, I would come in an hr early to set up my car but as years and route changes have went by, I am finding out that it really doesn't make or break my day anymore because I can only work 12 hrs a day or 60 a week. I don't work that many hours all the time but they can't get more than that out of me either
PT Car Washer
Well-Known Member
We fought this battle a few months ago in my building. Preloader made all the same charges you are making. A few drivers were all upset because they were not allowed to go into their trucks before their start times. Most drivers just said they do not work off the clock. Federal Labor law is very specific about not being allowed to work off the clock. It is your management teams responsibility to see that it does not happen. Even if it involves disciplinary action to stop it. Of course like everything, after a few weeks it is all forgotten about.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
We had a driver get injured while sorting his pkg car before start time-----mgt was quick to put an end to this practice. This lasted a week or so.
The sad part was the obviously upset center manager personally drove the injured driver to the ER.
The sad part was the obviously upset center manager personally drove the injured driver to the ER.
Indecisi0n
Well-Known Member
If he needs advise on plugging holes I can help.
cachsux
Wah
What do you put in yours?
Indecisi0n
Well-Known Member
Remember that Yankee candle that went missing...
I could use some of that advice:
When plugging holes, is it better to jam the plug in, or slide it in gently?
bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
Tube socks?
BSWALKS
Fugitive From Reality
You can keep it
Indecisi0n
Well-Known Member
It lost its Fresh Spring scent.
cachsux
Wah
The Cinnamon Apple or the Morning Mist?
