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<blockquote data-quote="UPS Lifer" data-source="post: 476439" data-attributes="member: 9789"><p>Thanks for the support. Sometimes it is easier to attack the person! I have been guilty of that as well! I take that kind of attack for what it is. It tells me a lot about that individual. </p><p></p><p>My post was not taken as a management person or former driver looking at this. I personally agree with your perspective (and always have) and that drivers should not be working over 9.5 hours. </p><p></p><p>If any package center that I ran started to creep past 9.3 paid day, the alarm would go off in my head. I needed to get it back in line and I would work on the dispatch and driver accountability to do that. Here is the difference.... I was not micro-managed. Everyone including me was affected if the paid day was over 9.5. </p><p></p><p>Working too many hours affects attitude, performance, outside quality of life, and your safety as well as the general public's safety. A lot of the same reasons why I believe in taking a lunch. .... but that is another thread! LOL! </p><p></p><p>I guess what I am saying is that maybe this is not the time to really make such an issue of this. </p><p></p><p>This reminds me of the squirrel who is busy scurrying around hoarding nuts and berries for the winter. There is no time to rest. If the squirrel does not hoard enough than it might not make it through the winter. </p><p></p><p>My post had to do with the recession and what I believe is the start of a depression. I am hopeful it will not get as bad as the 1930's but that depends on what our government does. Right now I have no confidence in the stimulus. The country needs immediate relief through housing initiatives and loan relief, job creation and tax relief. If the money goes anywhere else it will not help. I am well connected to real estate and investment arenas and the signs are all still moving the wrong direction. </p><p></p><p>This is why I am saying get the hours now! Make as much as you can before everything goes south. </p><p></p><p>We missed the signs earlier but there are two more waves of Interest adjustments coming (2009 & 2010) and hundreds of thousand more jobs to be lost. Commercial real estate is starting to show the signs that residential real estate are showing. </p><p></p><p>The real sign of a recession/depression are the jobs lost and right now they keep coming. It will get even worse before summer. You are only experiencing the tip of the iceberg with UPS as well. </p><p></p><p>Forget about seniority because if it gets bad enough... whole centers will close. The network will collapse backward to the hubs. </p><p></p><p>X & Y gen have little idea what a recession or depression is. </p><p></p><p>I am not hijacking this thread - people are talking about working too much (9.5 hours plus) and there are millions of people out of work who only wish they could fill the shoes and brown uniforms to put food on the table and shelter for their family. </p><p></p><p>There is an old saying - A recession is when your neighbor is out of work....</p><p>A depression is when YOU are out of work. </p><p></p><p>I am not crying doom and gloom - it is already there - You need to be that little squirrel hoarding your cache of food for the winter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UPS Lifer, post: 476439, member: 9789"] Thanks for the support. Sometimes it is easier to attack the person! I have been guilty of that as well! I take that kind of attack for what it is. It tells me a lot about that individual. My post was not taken as a management person or former driver looking at this. I personally agree with your perspective (and always have) and that drivers should not be working over 9.5 hours. If any package center that I ran started to creep past 9.3 paid day, the alarm would go off in my head. I needed to get it back in line and I would work on the dispatch and driver accountability to do that. Here is the difference.... I was not micro-managed. Everyone including me was affected if the paid day was over 9.5. Working too many hours affects attitude, performance, outside quality of life, and your safety as well as the general public's safety. A lot of the same reasons why I believe in taking a lunch. .... but that is another thread! LOL! I guess what I am saying is that maybe this is not the time to really make such an issue of this. This reminds me of the squirrel who is busy scurrying around hoarding nuts and berries for the winter. There is no time to rest. If the squirrel does not hoard enough than it might not make it through the winter. My post had to do with the recession and what I believe is the start of a depression. I am hopeful it will not get as bad as the 1930's but that depends on what our government does. Right now I have no confidence in the stimulus. The country needs immediate relief through housing initiatives and loan relief, job creation and tax relief. If the money goes anywhere else it will not help. I am well connected to real estate and investment arenas and the signs are all still moving the wrong direction. This is why I am saying get the hours now! Make as much as you can before everything goes south. We missed the signs earlier but there are two more waves of Interest adjustments coming (2009 & 2010) and hundreds of thousand more jobs to be lost. Commercial real estate is starting to show the signs that residential real estate are showing. The real sign of a recession/depression are the jobs lost and right now they keep coming. It will get even worse before summer. You are only experiencing the tip of the iceberg with UPS as well. Forget about seniority because if it gets bad enough... whole centers will close. The network will collapse backward to the hubs. X & Y gen have little idea what a recession or depression is. I am not hijacking this thread - people are talking about working too much (9.5 hours plus) and there are millions of people out of work who only wish they could fill the shoes and brown uniforms to put food on the table and shelter for their family. There is an old saying - A recession is when your neighbor is out of work.... A depression is when YOU are out of work. I am not crying doom and gloom - it is already there - You need to be that little squirrel hoarding your cache of food for the winter. [/QUOTE]
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