New pay rates.

So I started sept 10 at 8.50 I went thru my 90 days got 9.50 now with the new contract shouldn't I be making 11? Considering isn't that the new pay rate for new people that get hired at 10?


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upschuck

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So I started sept 10 at 8.50 I went thru my 90 days got 9.50 now with the new contract shouldn't I be making 11? Considering isn't that the new pay rate for new people that get hired at 10?


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Should be $10. There is no 90 day rsise anymore. You get an extra $1 if you're in a skilled position.
 

Acc0rd

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I feel bad for these guys too, id be very interested to see what happens! They have a year in etc and its like starting all over!
 

Quigley

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I feel bad for these guys too, id be very interested to see what happens! They have a year in etc and its like starting all over!
They are not starting over. 1 year seniority you get a raise.
Hourly Rate
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Start $11.00 $10.00
Seniority plus one (1) year $11.50 $10.50
Seniority plus two (2) years $12.00 $11.00
Seniority plus three (3) years $13.00 $12.00
Seniority plus four (4) years $13.50 $12.50
 

bleedinbrown58

That’s Craptacular
They are not starting over. 1 year seniority you get a raise.
Hourly Rate
Preloader All
Sorter Others
Start $11.00 $10.00
Seniority plus one (1) year $11.50 $10.50
Seniority plus two (2) years $12.00 $11.00
Seniority plus three (3) years $13.00 $12.00
Seniority plus four (4) years $13.50 $12.50
So I started sept 10 at 8.50 I went thru my 90 days got 9.50 now with the new contract shouldn't I be making 11? Considering isn't that the new pay rate for new people that get hired at 10?


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No, until be 10..and go up to 10.50 when u hit a year.
 

Quigley

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So I started sept 10 at 8.50 I went thru my 90 days got 9.50 now with the new contract shouldn't I be making 11? Considering isn't that the new pay rate for new people that get hired at 10?
You started at $8.50. In 90 days you went to $9.50. Since the new rate is $10 you go to $10 starting April 25th. And $10.50 Sept 10 2015. You will get a retro check fromSept 10th to your 90 anniversary. $1.50 per hour worked. From that date you will get a retro check for .50 cents till april 25th. If you transfer in to preloader or sorter you go up an additional $1.00 per hour. I hope its not too confusing.
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Acc0rd

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I miss the days of quickly making double minimum wage. When I started in '97, I was a Senior in HS and minimum wage in FL was 5.15 an hour. Within a year with my dollar sort raise and then my raise for my 1 year, I was at 10.25. Basically right at double minimum wage. These young guys now have to be there years on end to make double now as FL is right at 8 almost per hour minimum. Ive seen a lot of these discouraged guys just up and leave and never come back saying the pay isn't worth it as mcdonalds pays 9 bucks an hour for no labor basically. They don't think long term, but hey, I get it. Things have drastically changed!
 

Daalcaar

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I have a question for anyone willing to help. I will reach my first year of employment in the month of June. My question is regarding my raise? In some threads i see that I will receive $.70 in August. In other threads I see that I will be receiving $.50 once I reach my year due to progression. Can anyone tell me how my raises will be determined please? Will I receive the 70 cents or 50 cents? Or both? (Yeah, I know, wishful thinking) lol. Thanks for the help ahead of time.
 

Nimnim

The Nim
I have a question for anyone willing to help. I will reach my first year of employment in the month of June. My question is regarding my raise? In some threads i see that I will receive $.70 in August. In other threads I see that I will be receiving $.50 once I reach my year due to progression. Can anyone tell me how my raises will be determined please? Will I receive the 70 cents or 50 cents? Or both? (Yeah, I know, wishful thinking) lol. Thanks for the help ahead of time.

I'm not 100% sure, but since you were hired before August 1st you'll have 8.50 until then, then a retro to reflect a $1.50 increase until about October where you should have gotten a raise to 9.50, and at that point the retro will be for only $0.50 since the new starting wage is $10. At your seniority date in June you should get another $0.50 raise. I'm really not sure on the amount without checking the new contract, but you'll be getting the new progression raises for the new contract from now on and you'll not be less than what those are.

I can say for sure you won't receive the general raise of $0.70 in August since you're still in progression. At the minimum you should be receiving $10/hour in the next paycheck. After that you'll be falling in line with the progression outlined. The $0.70 raise is for people out of progression.
 

Nimnim

The Nim
I hate to say this though, but checking around the forum a little more there are reports of people in progression getting the 70 cent raise. I wouldn't hope for that since it's not in the progression schedule.
 

Quigley

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I'm not 100% sure, but since you were hired before August 1st you'll have 8.50 until then, then a retro to reflect a $1.50 increase until about October where you should have gotten a raise to 9.50, and at that point the retro will be for only $0.50 since the new starting wage is $10. At your seniority date in June you should get another $0.50 raise. I'm really not sure on the amount without checking the new contract, but you'll be getting the new progression raises for the new contract from now on and you'll not be less than what those are.

I can say for sure you won't receive the general raise of $0.70 in August since you're still in progression. At the minimum you should be receiving $10/hour in the next paycheck. After that you'll be falling in line with the progression outlined. The $0.70 raise is for people out of progression.
Actually you get the $1.50 retro back to Aug 1. Then you go to $10.50 June 1 year seniority.
 

Quigley

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Lets see if I can make this simple. If you started before Aug 1st 2013 and you are still in progression, then you would have gotten a raise to the new rate Aug 1st. Since the contract didnt get ratified till April 25th, then you will get a retro check for the difference between what you were making on July 31st and the new rate effective Aug 1st. If you started after Aug ist 2013, then the new rate applyes. But again since the new rate didnt actualy go into effect till April 25th, then you will get a retro check for the difference between what you started at and the new rate. There is no yearly rate increase (.70) while in progression. You will get the progression increase till you hit full scale. I hope this helps the confusion.
 

Oak

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Boys and girls, if you will read the changes outlined in the national master agreement, you will see it depends on your seniority date if you get the $0.70 raise in August of each year. Those with a seniority date of earlier than August 1, 2013 should receive both the Aug 1 raises and the raises outlined in progression.

"Sections 5. Wages

(a) Part-time Employees

All part-time employees who have attained seniority as of August 1, 2008 13 will receive the following general wage increases for each contract year. In the first three (3) years of the contract, the increase will be effective on August 1st. In 2016 and 2017 each of the years, the increase shall be paid in two (2) equal installments. The first half of the increase shall become effective on August 1 of the specified year. The second half of the increase shall become effective on February 1 of the following calendar year. The total wage increase for each year will be as follows:


2008 seventy cents ($0.70)

2009 seventy-five cents ($0.75)

2010 seventy-five cents ($0.75)

2011 eighty-five cents ($0.85)

2012 ninety-five cents ($0.95)

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2013 seventy cents ($0.70)

2014 seventy cents ($0.70)

2015 seventy cents ($0.70)

2016 eighty cents ($0.80)

2017 one dollar ($1.00)

Part-time employees still in progression on August 1, 2008 13 shall receive the above contractual increases and will be paid no less than what they are entitled to in accordance with the wage schedules in Article 22, Section 5 (b) below. Between the date of ratification and August 1, 2008 part-time employees will continue to be paid in accordance with the progression contained in the prior Agreement. The progression set forth in (b) below shall be applied effective August 1, 2008 2013.

(b) Newly hired part-time employees

All part-time employees, who are hired or reach seniority after August 1, 2008 13 will be paid according to the following wage schedules:


Hourly Rate

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Start $9.50 $8.50

Start plus ninety (90) calendar days $10.50 $9.50

Seniority plus one (1) year $11.00 $10.00

Seniority plus two (2) years $11.50 $10.50

Seniority plus three (3) years $12.00 $11.00

Seniority plus four (4) years $12.87 $11.87

Start $11.00 $10.00


Seniority plus one (1) year $11.50 $10.50


Seniority plus two (2) years $12.00 $11.00


Seniority plus three (3) years $13.00 $12.00


Seniority plus four (4) years $13.50 $12.50
"
 

boxxybrown

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Sorry about this, but I am still very much confused. I was hired in Sept 2012, received a .50 raise on my year date, which put me at 10.00/hour. I checked my paystub and my raise put me at 10.50/hour. I work the pre-load shift and mainly unload trucks. I also work surepost daily and sort packages occasionally. Should I be fighting for the 11.00/11.50 pay rate that preloaders/sorters are to receive?
 

upschuck

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Sorry about this, but I am still very much confused. I was hired in Sept 2012, received a .50 raise on my year date, which put me at 10.00/hour. I checked my paystub and my raise put me at 10.50/hour. I work the pre-load shift and mainly unload trucks. I also work surepost daily and sort packages occasionally. Should I be fighting for the 11.00/11.50 pay rate that preloaders/sorters are to receive?

According what I read, this is what you should be getting:
Aug 1 2013: 10.20
Sept (anny date) 2013: 10.50
Aug 2014 : 11.20
Aug 2015: 11.90
Sept (anny date) 2015: 12.00
Aug2016: 12.40
Sept(anny date) 2016: 12.50
Feb 2016 : 12.90
Aug 2017 :13.40
Feb 2018 : 13.90

I would say you get the Sept raises because of this
Part-time employees still in progression on August 1, 2013 shall
receive the above contractual increases and will be paid no less than what they are entitled to in accordance with the wage schedules in Article 22, Section 5 (b)
which is the new wage progression.

And a dollar more for a "skilled" position.
 
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