New Surepost Procedures implemented on Monday, 09-14-15?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by 10 point, Sep 12, 2015.

  1. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    Anyone heard how drivers are going to be able to divert proximity, duplicate, and multiple pkg abuses back to our system when found on route?
     
  2. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Call the local Union hall.
     
  3. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    Besides the obvious...
    the question was for those that may have discussed the memo.

    We haven't heard a word and the changes allegedly start Monday.
     
  4. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Ahhh ... and now the rest of the story.
     
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  5. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    Not helpful.
     
  6. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    The memo was sent to locals Friday. There was nothing in the memo addressing your issues.
     
  7. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    The memo addressed surepost violations and changes in the dispatch of those violations?

    We have ten grievances on those issues.

    That is our issue.
     
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  8. 2 hrs over allowed

    2 hrs over allowed Upstate follower

    Company has the technology to make this happen. It was a problem here when the last contract was put into effect. Then we started grieving any and all packages over 9 lbs. Within a week they had the weight issue resolved and we were delivering more proximity stops.
     
  9. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    Overweight and oversized surepost pkgs are easily caught.
    Duplicate, multiple, commercial, and proximity surepost pkgs are easily slid by.
    Almost of our grievances are over the last group.

    Defining a proximity stop in rural and metro areas would be a great help to the folks that have to police the issues.
     
  10. 2 hrs over allowed

    2 hrs over allowed Upstate follower

    Agreed. Should bring back basic and :censored2:can sure post.
     
  11. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    Should we just give all the sure post volume to fedex then?
     
  12. 2 hrs over allowed

    2 hrs over allowed Upstate follower

    They wouldn't be able to handle it all
     
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    SmartPost is brought directly to the destination Post Office for processing.
     
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  14. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    Yes they would. All they have to do is pick it up and then drop it off at the post office. Pretty easy. I don't know if you've looked in their trucks but thy have a lot of room I them and they grow and want to grow. Couple that with subpar wages and they will most certainly gobble it up. Be careful what you wish for. There's more to the picture than the hat you think.
     
  15. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    My issue is that the language is in Art 26 and if it's not enforceable then take it out of the next CBA or don't put it in there to begin with for us to have to deal with.
     
  16. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Why do you as just a driver feel that you "have to deal with" it?
     
  17. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    "Just a driver".
    That says alot. It's our contract. If we're not going to respect and stand up for it no one else will.

    Either make it enforceable (from "120 days after ratification") or just leave it out of the CBA altogether.

    This volume helps create ft jobs.
     
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  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The only person who can enforce this at the center level would be the PDS.
     
  19. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    What does that have to do with subcontracting violations involving surepost?
    If there's violations pertaining to Art 26 I'm sure it's not due to union activity.

    Yes, the company's at fault if there's abuse of the stops and pkgs that are listed in art 26 whether it's the PDS, OMS, center manager, DMs or IE.

    Fix the violations or get filed on. Or, the bargaining unit employees can just turn their heads and ignore it.
    Pretty clear cut I believe.
     
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  20. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    You really think a PTer working the preload really cares whether they load the packages on to a pkg car or in to a bag? In fact, they probably prefer loading them in to bags-----much easier.