You are acting beyond ridiculous. I'm not defending Romney on this issue, I'm pointing out that the company was slated to die even sooner had Bain not purchased it. You act like they killed a thriving business and screwed a bunch of people who would have been even worse off without the purchase.
Send me your name and address so that I can verify that you aren't a child molester. Otherwise, you're a child molester. If you have nothing to hide, it shouldn't be a problem.
See how that works?
You are acting beyond ridiculous. I'm not defending Romney on this issue, I'm pointing out that the company was slated to die even sooner had Bain not purchased it. You act like they killed a thriving business and screwed a bunch of people who would have been even worse off without the purchase.
Send me your name and address so that I can verify that you aren't a child molester. Otherwise, you're a child molester. If you have nothing to hide, it shouldn't be a problem.
See how that works?[/QUOT ]
MFE is a private citizen.
Romney is not, he has put himself in the public arena by running for president, big difference there dano don't ya think?
You are acting beyond ridiculous. I'm not defending Romney on this issue, I'm pointing out that the company was slated to die even sooner had Bain not purchased it. You act like they killed a thriving business and screwed a bunch of people who would have been even worse off without the purchase.
Send me your name and address so that I can verify that you aren't a child molester. Otherwise, you're a child molester. If you have nothing to hide, it shouldn't be a problem.
See how that works?
I think most people have a problem with the way Bain does it. Sure, the company was going down...until Bain showed up. Then banks couldn't wait to loan to the struggling company. Credit everywhere. But it didn't matter to Bain if the company survived or not. With the company loaded with debt, Bain could write themselves huge bonuses and walk away when failure happened. But hey, that was the past. The current problem is that Romney and company don't see a problem with that. Where the hell is the opportunity and fairness for people to make it in the world with those business practices?
Why aren't y'all talking about all the business Bain created, like Staples? They're an investment firm. When it works out they score big. But they put money at risk over and over. That's the point, Romney knows what works and what doesn't. Right now we need someone who knows how to slash and burn because our debt is too big. And come on, there are more Democrat millionaires in Congress than Republican millionaires, and if you think for a moment they don't have money invested and stashed overseas you are naive. The reason all of this is being hammered on is Obama doesn't have a record to run on so they are grasping at straws. I realize on this forum rich people are evil incarnate but poor people won't supply you with a job. We need a president who understands capital markets in order to have a thriving economy that will ultimately pay for the social programs we all use.
Welp to me it's what goes around comes around. The other side sure beat the dead-horse known as the Obama Birth Certificate into oblivion. Now they get to taste the other side, serves them or anyone right. Face it Repubs are all about Corporate Welfare and Corporates making the rules not gov't.
What does Staples pay? $10 per hour? We need living wage jobs, not exactly what Romney envisions or his MO when it comes to "re-inventing" companies. What Fred is doing right now is straight from the Romney playbook. De-content the job, pay less, and create greater profits for the (crappy jobs) "job creators".
Romney knows what works for the 1%, not the rest of us. This dude is so far removed from reality he might as well be from another planet (Kolob).
As usual, we'll agree to disagree.
I guess you forgot about 8 years of Bush bashing? I don't recall Romney or major Republican leadership talking about birth certificates. But Obama and his admin sure are attacking Romney personally. If we stick to real issues I think Obama is in trouble. And thank goodness. He was dealt a tough hand for sure. But his policies have exacerbated the problem and given us trillion dollar deficits. We are in trouble, and simply can't afford 4 more years of the same. If you can't see that then you are blinded by partisanship. Are you an American patriot first, or a Democrat?
I'm an American patriot DEMOCRAT.
Republicans are the ones selling this country out to the highest anonymous bidders of the world, hardly patriotic.
as for the election, aside from a disaster, the polls clearly show Romney has only the slimmest of chances.
Time will tell.
And don't forget the 3000 Americans killed on our own soil under the last republican president, two economic collapses and two tremendously costly wars topped off with a few trillion in tax cuts to the wealthy (like Fred), I'm still waiting for Fred to trickle something down.
if there is one thing Obama disappointed me with,it's he has NOT raised taxes on the wealthy.
Living wage jobs...Do you think Fred is providing a living wage?..case in point I was talking with a Fedex Officecemployee just the other day.She is a single mother working fulltime. Has been with Fedex Office for a number of years and she and her daughter qualify for food stamps.They are getting public assistance because Fred doesnt want to pay her more than 12.00 an hour ..she is getting some child support but it is sporatic. She is a good worker and great with some of the jerk customers who come into the store she is competent and reliable.They should start calling it Fedex OfficeMart ..
I think most people have a problem with the way Bain does it. Sure, the company was going down...until Bain showed up. Then banks couldn't wait to loan to the struggling company. Credit everywhere. But it didn't matter to Bain if the company survived or not. With the company loaded with debt, Bain could write themselves huge bonuses and walk away when failure happened. But hey, that was the past. The current problem is that Romney and company don't see a problem with that. Where the hell is the opportunity and fairness for people to make it in the world with those business practices?
You are acting beyond ridiculous. I'm not defending Romney on this issue, I'm pointing out that the company was slated to die even sooner had Bain not purchased it. You act like they killed a thriving business and screwed a bunch of people who would have been even worse off without the purchase.
Send me your name and address so that I can verify that you aren't a child molester. Otherwise, you're a child molester. If you have nothing to hide, it shouldn't be a problem.
See how that works?[/QUOT ]
MFE is a private citizen.
Romney is not, he has put himself in the public arena by running for president, big difference there dano don't ya think?
Same principle. His refusal to prove that he doesn't molest kids gives me reason to be suspicious.
Welp to me it's what goes around comes around. The other side sure beat the dead-horse known as the Obama Birth Certificate into oblivion.
the polls clearly show Romney has only the slimmest of chances.
Living wage jobs...Do you think Fred is providing a living wage?..case in point I was talking with a Fedex Officecemployee just the other day.She is a single mother working fulltime. Has been with Fedex Office for a number of years and she and her daughter qualify for food stamps.They are getting public assistance because Fred doesnt want to pay her more than 12.00 an hour ..she is getting some child support but it is sporatic.