Numbers game - PPH

Discussion in 'UPS Partners' started by 8up, Aug 12, 2011.

  1. 8up

    8up Member

    I'd like to see replies explaining; how trying to obtain an ever increasing piece per hour rate in an aging facility with larger cube freight is realistic. also how attempting to make PPH is related to return on investment, when damages continue to increase. Our mgmt seem to only chase the PPH every day and then once a month say they'll reduce the damages next month. As long as they chase the unrealistic PPH how is this the correct number to obtain when packages get left behind or damaged every sort? Does PPH actually lead to profitability?
     
  2. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!

    Work safely and efficiently.
     
  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The ideal would be to obtain the optimum PPH with zero damages, missorts or left in buildings. We all know reality is far from the ideal. Let mgt worry about the numbers--you just do the best job that you can in the safest manner possible.
     
  4. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    Your sups aren't worried about managing the business, they are worried about managing their careers.

    There is no accurate way to quantify damage reduction into a metric that can be assigned to each work group; therefore, damage reduction will always be something that takes a back seat to PPH. The bottom line is that it is more profitable for us to keep on cramming that volume thru the grinder at high speed and then mopping up the mess at the other end. "Damage reduction" is one of those things that we will occasionally pay lip service to in order to maintain the illusion that it is a priority. Every few months there might be a PCM about it, or maybe someone from corporate will come up with a new acronym or buzz word for us to recite, but the underlying issues that cause damages will never be addressed.
     
  5. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    At my center, they write up the spa people if they scan a damage. Why the unloaders don't just put damages aside til the end, I will never understand. I can't count the number of times I have said this to no avail.
     
  6. Upser08

    Upser08 New Member

    Pieces per hour pay our checks. In our hub 1200 pph is the the goal. PPH divided by # of employees divided by hours in the sort span = profitability or lack of profitability.
     
  7. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!

    keep drinking the brown cool-aid!!!
     
  8. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    And I'll keep drinking the brown beer.
     
  9. sosocal

    sosocal New Member

    what kills me is achieving MSD pph--only to have the MSD changed to a higher PPH, although there have been no changes to job set up, facilities or technology- It is a testament to me that...YES....your plan should be just ouf of reach at all times. Success is unacceptable- It means you will become complacent.
     
  10. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    This post reminds me of the old greyhound dog race tracks. The dogs were trained to chase a mechanical rabbit around the track. Every once in a while one of the dogs would catch the rabbit. The dog would no longer race after that and would have to either be destroyed or put up for adoption/rescue.
     
  11. Upser08

    Upser08 New Member

    How is that a lie? It is very simple, yet hard for you to process.

    You would run this company into the ground. Thank God there are not people like you in management
     
  12. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Wasn't sure who you were talking to, so I went back 5 days to figure it out.
    Seems you're sucked into the shortcut, do anything to save a minute, pph, mentality so bad that it has spilled into your BC skill set.
     
  13. Upser08

    Upser08 New Member

    Yeah, I don't know what any of that means. All I'm saying is there is no pph goal that is difficult to attain.
    Hourly employees just need to man up and do it.
    Stop asking when can we go home, you can go home after your 3 hour work day!

    As far as drivers go, if I was making $31 an hour they would have a hard getting me off the clock, so not a lot of
    sympathy.
     
  14. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!

    Tell me that after 20 years punk!!!
     
  15. Returntosender

    Returntosender Well-Known Member

    you're oblivious are'nt you.
     
  16. thecamel

    thecamel Waiting to put the re in front of tired

    upser08 if you want you could call me upser88. Are you even 23 years old? And yes those persistent 12 hour days stiil suck at $31 and $46 per hour
     
  17. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    Another genius in a cubicle. I suppose it all makes sense on paper.
     
  18. Dragon

    Dragon Package Center Manager

    even for management...we are there before you get there and long after you leave.....
     
  19. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

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  20. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    My management team is normally at home eating dinner with their family while I am still out cleaning up after another one of their "bright ideas".