Discussion in 'Current Events' started by outamyway, Oct 6, 2008.
There was an interesting report on FOXnews last night, in case you missed it.
Your first mistake is taking anything from Sean Hannity and reposting it.
Might want to rethink this next time.
When unable to repute the points in an argument it is sometimes better to attack the person making the argument.
Come on Tieguy, shall we bombard this site with Micheal Moore and Al Gore you tube clips......outamyway, do everyone a favor, share the Sean Hannity clips with your republican base websites.
Gee diesel you and your kind have no problems pulling up every parking ticket on palin yet you object when we try to find out why Osama is so tight lipped about his college years. Whats he trying to hide?
If my old college English days serves me well that would be called an ad hominem. Thank you Mrs Camacho
| Friday, May 4, 2012 @ 6:34 pm |
Review Of Occupy, SEIU, Anarchist Training Manuals, Including Children’s Guide To Anarchy…
Here’s Bill Ayers review of the children’s book (not a joke):
“. . . A delight to read! A children’s book on anarchy seems somehow just right: an instinctive, intuitive sense of fairness, community, and interdependence sits naturally enough with a desire for participatory democracy, feminism, queer-rights, environmental balance, self-determination, and peace and global justice.” — Bill Ayers, author (To Teach: The Journey in Comics and Fugitive Days), teacher, Barack Obama’s alleged terrorist pal, and grandpa.
COuld you kindly point out what "terrorists" act BILL AYERS PERSONALLY committed?
Id like to know. while your at it, tell us how many times he was tried in a court of law for terror acts, or in the least, tell us how many times he was arrested for terror acts, then could you tell us how long he spent in jail for terror acts?
Might make for some interesting conversation. But if you take the right wing (hannity) point of view, the facts are not facts.
Go for it.
Do your own research......
When someone talks about there wasn't enough bombing............he's a guilty insane monster in my book and he's married to a she devil!! That's my opinion and I'm allowed to have it.
This is how he is described in most reports "Former terrorist-turned-university professor Bill Ayers..."
So if I were to suggest that there was not enough bombing at Tora Bora...?
Yeah, but was your wife doing the bombing? (B. Dohrn went underground in early 1970, engaging in bombing activities.)
They were never prosecuted for their involvement with the 25 bombings the Weather Underground claimed; charges were dropped because of improper FBI surveillance.
They were never CHARGED because there was no EVIDENCE. They were never tried because there was never any CHARGES.
ONLY those on FOX news and their surrogates have suggested that both Ayers and Dorn were criminals, but NOT one of them can prove it. It goes to show that if they repeat something long enough, it becomes true to the listener. The Weather underground was a LARGE group of mixed personalities.
A coalition (if you will) of activists. By simply connecting AYERS to the group you and the FOX SPEWS crowd want to tie him to terrorism.
AYERS was never tried, charged, sentenced or arrested for any crimes against the country yet you want to talk about him like he was Usama Bin Laden. When AYERS ( a scholar ) talked about "there were not enough bombings" that wasnt all he said in that sentence.
He was talking about the effect of the weather undergrounds actions to stop the vietnam war. The weather underground intentions was to affect national policy on the war in vietnam. They hated that the goverment was taking poor teenagers to war and skipping over rich white kids (like them).
Yes, the weather underground had some really stupid people associated with it, like the splinter group that robbed a brinks truck, or those that robbed a bank, or those that planted small pipe bombs in federal buildings.
Those people were all caught and prosecuted, with the exception of a couple who blew themselves up making a pipe bomb.
Its amazing how you would trash a man in this country simply because it was suggested to you by a cable news channel. Just like you have your opinions on goverment, so does AYERS and you may not like it, but its HIS.
The man has written many books, taught at many schools, gives lectures to thousands of students and just because HANNITY and ORIELLY call him a terrorist doesnt make him one. This country is founded on the presumtion of innocence and unless you can prove he was guilty of anything, then hes an innocent man.
The weather underground split many times into different factions, and at one point, both dorn and ayers group favored coming out of hiding and turning themselves in. They did. DORN was NEVER charged with any bombings and to say that is nonsense.
Both are highly educated people from rich white families.
At the time, the war in vietnam was highly unpopular, there were many anti goverment groups in the country trying to stop the war.
Can we agree that is an outright lie?
Can you provide court documents?
Av, really?! A contempt charge? That's it? Can we agree that a contempt charge falls well short of making dohrn out to be the heinous monster of the Weather Underground? People do more time for simple drug possession.
Is your implication that she was hiding from the FBI under a false name for years for a contempt charge? You just said you wanted a court document, I assume because you wanted to side with our resident serial liars claim that she was never charged or convicted of a crime. In April 1970 both were charged with federal crimes. In June of 1970 they were both indicted by a federal grand jury. Dohrn also spent seven months in prison after being convicted of a different crime. To say they were never charged with the terrorism crimes because there was no evidence is living in some type of fantasy world. They were charged but never tried because they were in hiding. They were only able to come out of hiding because of a supreme court ruling excluding the wiretapping techniques that were used to gather evidence against them.
Now your turn. Show me court documents proving they had no association with the weather underground or weathermen.
"The grand jury investigation that underlies this motion resulted from a violent armed robbery of a Brinks armored truck in Nanuet, New York on October 20, 1981. (The perpetrators stole $1.6 million, murdered a Brinks guard, and during their escape, which was aided by several confederates, murdered two more policemen.)"
Just to be clear what is being discussed in this court document.
But this is America and I don't have to prove or disprove who I associate with. If there is evidence that I have committed a crime, that is one thing. If not, don't come fishing for indictments just because I am a member of the Neo Nazi movement.
Separate names with a comma.