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Obamacare

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by I GOT ONE MORE, Mar 21, 2010.

  1. #1 Does this bill pass?

    #2 If the bill passes, how will it affect UPSers?

    Civility, please.
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  2. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj 20 months to go

    more of your earned dollars will be used to fund this, thus everyone will have less $$ to spent on helping this economy to grow.
  3. badpal

    badpal Member

    We will take a beating
  4. PT Stewie

    PT Stewie "Big Fella"

    I was with Bart Stupak "no federal dollars for abortion" But Obama promised today an executive order madating same.Now it looks like another obstacle has fallen.At this point I think it will pass.
    I firmley believe taxes on our health care are coming because somebody has to pay for this.
  5. tourists24

    tourists24 Well-Known Member

    all of this has got me wondering actually. One of the few things that has held me at UPS for this long is the health benefits. In all honesty, the pay is a small part of it, but I would take much less somewhere else if the job was right and came with the benefits. I know things are still a few years off but the country is definitely headed toward government healthcare.... wonder how this is all going to affect the way things are with us and UPS?
  6. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    1. Yes, Unfortunately it will squeak by. Another wasteful government program run by incompetent people. Our quality of healthcare will go down while the price goes up.

    2. We will be paying for healthcare in the next contract.
  7. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    1. Yes it will pass.
    2. Now UPS drivers and Fedex Ground contractors will be on equal footing.
  8. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    sorry. that last bit was unnecessary.
  9. lastoasis

    lastoasis New Member

    they should have just extended Medicare coverage to everyone and allowed Medicare to negotiate the price of pharmaceuticals.

    does anyone know how much per hour the company pays the union for health and welfare?
  10. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    It will pass.....even though it's unconstitutional. Obama's order is only as good as the......nevermind.......it's a wasted move and if you're one of Stupek's people, he sold you out!!!
  11. klein

    klein Für Meno :)


    Not per hr, but the average national for Employer's monthly constribution is $1155 per month.
    about $7 per hr. Thats the average though from all companies and insurance programs.
  12. upsgrunt

    upsgrunt Well-Known Member

    If it's not good enough for Obama, congress, and their families, then it isn't good enough for me. If it passes I will do my part to make sure every single member of congress is voted out.
  13. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Member Troll

    The Right wing had one year of blockage and mis-information and yet, in less than 3 hours, the Dems in congress will pass the new health care legislation without a single member of the right wing's help.

    All the blowhards who spoke today on the right wing had nothing to offer but the same old garbage of "unconsitutional", "un-american", "too expensive", "big goverment", "takeovers"...blah blah blah...

    They spoke of "sick" americans without health insurance as "sob-stories", then repeated it on air on FAUX NOISE all day. The republicans got called out by the president when they had a meeting a couple of weeks ago, republicans had a "chance" to bring forward their ideas and solutions, yet, only a handful took the time to actually ofer some.

    This bill and issue, which has been debated for decades, will pass with a majority beyond the 216 votes minimum.

    Maybe if any of you actually took the time to read this bill, you will see that the Republicans in the house are full of hot air.

    As for us at UPS, do any of you believe that under this new health care bill, they would then ask us to pay a portion of the costs? If you do, then you dont know DIDDLY about negotiations.

    UPS has tried to get its hourlies to pay for part of health care for years! This bill will change nothing. UPS will ask again in 2013 with or without this bill, so lets not jump on the republican bandwagon and make a claim that will happen no matter what happens to this bill.

    Example: the republicans claim this bill will make health premiums higher, unfortunately, health premiums would have risen without this bill to the tune of 50% higher. Now, this bill will prevent the insurance companies from EVER raising premiums to a 50% level.

    Let's get it straight, the republicans dragged this out for a year, thought they had it stalled, organized teaparty buffoons to raid town hall meetings only to come up short, and this bill LAW.

    Sorry right wingers, YOU LOSE.

    The party of NO, will watch as health care reform passes easily.

    Peace.
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  14. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Member Troll

    PSSST Grunt,

    This is exactly the type of health care, congress, senate and white house has. Maybe a course in politics may help you understand what you need to know before making a foolish statement.

    Peace.
  15. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Member Troll

    Aww Moreluck,

    all the fox news and all you can offer is a repetition of on air claims.

    How about backing anything up in your post. Please, demonstrate which part of the constitution this violates. I am sure your extensive legal background will yield us something we can rally behind.

    Peace.
  16. srvhero

    srvhero "leastbest"

  17. Lue C Fur

    Lue C Fur Evil member

    It will slowly pass although it needed lots of special deals for the dems that held out. It will add to the debt regardless of what the Obama koolaid drinkers believe. This is just another screw put into the hard working American that wants less goverment interference. Its good for the freeloaders that like to have someone hold there hand from cradle to the grave. Just like every other govement program it will cost more than what they tell you and will be loaded with fraud, waste and abuse. In the end the quality of our health care will go down hill.

    Oh and dont forget...taxes will be going up...unless your a freeloader.

    Oh and just so i can be like some of my lefty friends...peace.:peaceful:
  18. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj 20 months to go

    TOS . just in case you missed the latest local news from the Massachusetts , which this healthcare bill is modeled on, the Mass. State treasurer has stated that Mass care does not work and has financially ruined the Commonwealth of Mass. Even with mandated coverage for all, premiums keep rising and doctors keep leaving.
  19. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj 20 months to go

    There have been FOIA requests to Congress & the White House to publish what deals were cut / made to pass this joke of a bill.
    This" the most transparent administration" keeps claiming that they don't have to tell.
  20. PT Stewie

    PT Stewie "Big Fella"

    Then God help us !
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