Obamaites, what do you think?

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by over9five, Mar 14, 2009.

  1. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    I just want to know what the Obama supporters think of him now. Are you disappointed? Is this the same guy you voted for?

    What about his promise that his administration would have the highest caliber, most ethical people? Would you call this an outright lie based on the people he has tried to, and in some cases has, appointed?

    What about his promise not to pass anything with earmarks? He also told us the present stimulus HAD no earmarks. Blatant lies? Obviously not a man of his word, right?

    How 'bout his promise of bi-partisanship? I've heard him take digs at the Republicans many times. I even heard him blame the Republicans for himself signing the stimulus bill! Not the way to reach across the aisle in my mind.

    And where's the "change"?? Where are the new people with new ideas? 98% of his appointees are Clinton retreads.

    You can't still think of him as the Messiah..........can you????
     
  2. toonertoo

    toonertoo Most Awesome Dog Staff Member

    Now over, why do you always have to bring up facts and use them for your own selfish republican interest? :surprised:
     
  3. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Maybe there's a place for Bernie Madeoff in O's admin. I hear he's not happy in the jail situation. I guess they ran out of shrimp.
     
  4. tonyexpress

    tonyexpress Whac-A-Troll Patrol Staff Member

    More,

    Your next post will be # 16,000, congratulations!!

    Also I just noticed that Over will be posting # 6000 before you know it, congrats to you too!

    Tony
     
  5. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    "CHANGE"....my mind often is my favorite bumper sticker. It is so true.
     
  6. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    I suppose he could fill one of those treasury posts that are still open, after all he is a genius with other people's money.
     
  7. chev

    chev Nightcrawler

    :laughing:Are you kidding? They have worn their knees out bowing to him. Too late now.
     
  8. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Obama-ites Exercise......

    Step 1. Face the mirror.
    Step 2. Form mouth into an "O" shape.
    Step 3. Remember, this is what you will look like when
    you realize you've been robbed (literally).
    Step 4. Now, instead of saying "Obama", practice saying
    "Oh Dear".
    Step 5. You now have something in common with Mr. Bill.

    Oh, Noooooooooooooooo!!!!
     
  9. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Hmmm, none of the sites Obamaites has answered.


    Why could that be???????
     
  10. diesel96

    diesel96 New Member

    Maybe it's the disingenious labeling facter and the falsehood nature of the questions. Maybe most people are full of glee that Neo-con Republicans are no longer in charge and won't be lying and hypercritical to the american people any longer. Therefore anyone other than a Republican would be looked at with positive results. I rather have a Gov't Up front and transparent telling us they going to screw us rather than worshipping one who lies, spits on the Constitution, leaves us in the red, makes the rich richer and the poor poorer, and says mission accomplished.
    But hey, don't let me interrupt you guys from reassuring each other....:wink2:
     
  11. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Falsehood nature of the questions????

    How do you figure? Every question is based in fact. He has LIED to you. I'm just wondering if you're disappointed.

    Did he not promise the most capable, ethical people? Did he not then try to appoint a bunch of law breaking tax evaders?

    Did he not tell us on national TV that the stimulus bill had no earmarks when in fact it had thousands?


    No falsehoods here, just simple questions.
     
  12. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    I gotta say, I never thought I'd ever again hear as much whining and sniveling as I did from the left after the 2000 and 2004 elections. You guys seem determined to make them look like amateurs at the crying game though :sad-very:.

    Take my advice, grow up and move on. You'll get another shot in 4 years and crying every day won't make it come any quicker. Go barbecue or something...
     
  13. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    No change here, but hiring known criminals, raising taxes on the poor, and partisian politics.
     
  14. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member



    But unlike them, we're right!!!!!

    LOL!
     
  15. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    (1) O has lied, his promise to make all bills available to the public for 5 days before signing them. The quickest so far was signed in 3 hrs.
    (2) he has not followed the Constitution; ie be a natural born citizen.
    (3)When was he transparent .
    (4) "leaves us in the red" what do you call his out of control spending , he has caused more debt then all other presidents to date.
    (5) " rich..richer...poor ..poorer" classic . but not in these economic times; everyone is poorer.
     
  16. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    I saw where Obama's most recent approval ratings were slipping to around 57%. That is usually not that big of a deal but this particular poll was from MSNBC! The most liberal news network there is! Or maybe I should say THE liberal news network. So, the Obamaites that frequent MSNBC are apparently getting :censored2:. That is pretty bad.
     
  17. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    Heard another appointee to the treasury has bowed out, that makes 4.
    I'm sure they could find someone to fill those posts, have they asked anyone with a HB-1 ?
     
  18. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Can't do that Jones. There is way to much at stake for this country's longterm vitality and validity to just do that.

    I'll give you an example of what I mean.

    Yesterday the AP News ran this story that the US in fact would continue combat missions for the longhaul in what IMO is an opposite position of what Obama is now telling the public. In fact, the story quotes the following from Brig. Gen. Frederick Rudesheim, a deputy commander of U.S. forces in Baghdad:

    Now it would be very easy for one to say this is all true until the drop dead date (and there is no pun intended there) Obama has set when allegedly we will be out of Iraq. However, yesterday when the above AP story was hitting the newswire, ABC News released it's own story where they quoted Iraq's prime minister al-Maliki in saying the following:

    As the Washington spin begins to overtake and dominate the landscape from election spin, promises made during the election cycle will once again become obvious IMO as just more broken promises and this is not an exclusive Obama trait but in truth a fact that happens no matter who is elected. Those that bullhorn Obama to be some type of radical about to run off the reservation should take comfort that Obama is in fact following the template of past Presidents although I'd love it if he would leave the reservation because at least it would be change!
    :happy-very: It would also show the guy is thinking beyond the mega corp/mercantile state and that in itself gives one to hope. I figure the war within gov't from such action would result in the people finding new freedoms among themselves and soling problems among themselves, thus further defanging the vampire state.

    This thread was started for obvious purposes and quite frankly I was surprised to see D and then yourself even respond to it. I thought D's first point of

    was very valid because to be quite honest, I'm not certain based on their track record that had republicans switched seats with democrats right now and McCain was living at 1600 Penn. Ave that things would be all that much different. Our repubican cheerleaders here at the BC decry Obama's plans and their costs but yet the republican alternative was in the $700 billion range boondoogle. The red state BCers here scream murder at Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy ad naseum for using gov't as a socialist do-gooder program while ignoring the actions of their own party.

    What's even funnier is the vocal opposition of red staters to nation building during the Clinton years and look at what they themselves did when they controlled the keys to the Kingdom. Sad part is they are lost in their own hypocrisy IMO!

    Obviously, I'm not a fan of Obama's economic ideas and gov't growth but I could actually handle all that because when gov't does these things, black markets and underground economies prosper and I've operated in these shadows before and I can easily drop back out and do it again because the bigger the bureacracy gets, the bigger and more obvious it's cracks to avoid detection. However, I don't share D's rose colored optimism as he expressed in this statement:

    If that were only true that the same forces that drove policy before were in fact expunged now, I could also rejoice. I don't expect few if any to even begin to understand this comment but had Obama rejected most of the folks he put in power and named folks the likes of Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright, I just might be a bit more positive even though again on a philosophical level I differ in areas from those 2 men. At least those 2 men and their ilk would remove the global empire driven merchantilist who've run things for decades and decades who even now hide behind the mask of being true free markets in order not to reveal their own draconian monopolistic destruction of the very thing they lie to the public and say they are. So few people dare go back and even read the great classical liberal thinkers and the physiocrats that formed the backbone of the force that created our country in the first place. Unstanding the real McCoy would in fact lay the seed to expose the lie of the real system that now runs us under an assumed name.

    I've always found it most interesting how the corp-state used it's muscle to kill the free and independent farmer in it's drive towards centralized corp. control of the meaning of obtaining wealth from the land but that is for discussion at another time and place. We no longer are the reason for gov't but rather only chattel to be bred and herded at election time for purposes of continuing a fraud and that is to then after the election, bleed us all dry in the name of the corp/mercantile state that both political parties obey and protect at all costs. IMO Obama, contrary to all things said by himself or what others here say (pro or con) that he is, seems very bound and tied to the same direction all past Presidents, regardless of party or public pronouncements and I see nothing yet that would suggest "CHANGE" is or will actually take place.

    Until I see otherwise, I will continue to point out the hypocrisy of bothsides where I see it.

    :wink2::peaceful:

    It was once said, by who I forget, but still true IMO
    The secret to this whole thing working is the control of words which we call spin and this in turn controls your thoughts. All else then follows a natural course of reaction. Allowing others to continue to re-define words of past history will only result in more control.
     
  19. Sammie

    Sammie Well-Known Member

    Nearly 20 years ago, a force of nature packed schools and meeting halls with his personality and eloquence. At the age of 46, he promised a new day and shared his life story about a father he never knew and a mother who struggled to bring him up.

    Now, four elections later, is it change, or has history just repeated itself?

    with another Culture Of Change.

    This time,

    In a world or Terrorism, let's cut the Defense Budget by 25%

    And close Gitmo by the year's with no plan or exit strategy.

    The U.S. banking crisis requires a financial genius, not someone who's
    become a laughingstock the entire world over.

    Our economic troubles are being solved by a trillion dollar package
    that will triple in three years that nobody read.

    That blessed $13 a week that will make such an enormous difference in our lives was not designed to be a gift, but income that we'll pay taxes on next year.

    Why didn't he ask us what we wanted? Americans won't be driving miniature shoe boxes, they prefer the safety of SUVs. Therefore, 12 billion dollars will go for plug-in cars... :dissapointed:

    An enormous portion of the population who lack any kind of work ethic will be pleased to have the govt. spend so much on them. Asta to the self respect that comes from making your own way.

    How low will the Dow have to sink to make an impression on the Globama Borealis?

    The only thing that's changed is the scale of how fast he's constructing this House Of Cards.


     
  20. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    For the youth today it is hard to understand parents who don't support Obama. This is common for many of the young people of this generation, just as the youth back during the civil rights era had parents who just didn't understand the racism like they saw it. Many of you are struggling with the fact that your parents just don't get it. They don't feel the same about Obama the way that you do. They still cling to their old ways of guns and bibles and greedy capitalism. You know better. You know that Obama, and the Democratic marjority, can run things better than those greedy corporations. You know that the best way to run an industry is to nationalize that industry.

    That is why this thread has been created. For you, the future of our nation, to let us know who your parents are. Tell us the names of those who do not support Obama the way that you do. Let us know if your parents own guns, or wish ill will toward the government. Let us know before it is too late for you and too late for your country.

    It is the patriotic thing to do. Let the government take care of this problem for you.

    List your parents name here.
    __________________
    Things are going to change I can feel it.
    ................................................................................................
    The name of this thread is....
    List of Parents who don't support O.
    found at .......
    theobamaforum.com

    And the children are naming their parents.
    Is this how the new order is to be ?