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<blockquote data-quote="Jones" data-source="post: 327248" data-attributes="member: 4805"><p>Charges have been dropped against L/Cpl Tatum, so SSgt Wuterich is the sole remaining shooter facing charges, which is not all that surprising being that he was the patrol leader. Sgt Dela Cruz and several other squad members were granted immunity in exchange for their testimony against Wuterich. So far Dela Cruz's testimony would seem to be the most damaging:</p><p></p><p><em>Yesterday, at a pre-trial hearing ahead of the trial of one of the accused, Sgt Dela Cruz gave evidence at a courtroom in Camp Pendleton, north of San Diego, California.</em></p><p><em>He said he watched how his squad leader, Staff Sergeant Frank Wuterich, shot five Iraqis who were trying to surrender and then told his men to lie about the killings.</em></p><p><em>"They were just standing, looking around, had hands up," Sgt Dela Cruz said. "Then I saw one of them drop in the middle. I didn't know what was going on, sir. Looked to my left, saw Staff Sergeant Wuterich shooting."</em></p><p><em>The Iraqi civilians had been standing by a white car with their hands interlocked behind their heads when they were shot, Sgt Dela Cruz says.</em></p><p><em>"He [St Sgt Wuterich] told me that if anybody asked, they were running away and the Iraqi army shot them," Sgt Dela Cruz said.</em></p><p><em>After the five men died, a team of marines led by St Sgt Wuterich allegedly attacked two houses with grenades and gunfire in an effort to find insurgents. The dead included women, children and the elderly.</em></p><p></p><p></p><p>Dela Cruz does have some credibility problems though, as he has already admitted that he lied during the initial investigation when he told the investigating officer that the five men had been shot by the Iraqi army. How effective his testimony ends up being will probably hinge on corroborating statements from some of the other squad members.</p><p></p><p>It's impossible to say without seeing official transcripts of the investigation, but it sure sounds like something bad happened at Haditha (beyond L/Cpl Terrazas getting killed by an IED), and that, at least initially, someone lied about it.</p><p>I say that only because the initial after action report claimed that "A US marine and 15 civilians were killed yesterday from the blast of a roadside bomb in Haditha.", </p><p>when in fact the only one actually killed by the bomb was L/Cpl Terrazas. Everyone else was killed by the marines.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I will withhold judgement until Wuterich gets his day in court.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jones, post: 327248, member: 4805"] Charges have been dropped against L/Cpl Tatum, so SSgt Wuterich is the sole remaining shooter facing charges, which is not all that surprising being that he was the patrol leader. Sgt Dela Cruz and several other squad members were granted immunity in exchange for their testimony against Wuterich. So far Dela Cruz's testimony would seem to be the most damaging: [I]Yesterday, at a pre-trial hearing ahead of the trial of one of the accused, Sgt Dela Cruz gave evidence at a courtroom in Camp Pendleton, north of San Diego, California.[/I] [I]He said he watched how his squad leader, Staff Sergeant Frank Wuterich, shot five Iraqis who were trying to surrender and then told his men to lie about the killings.[/I] [I]"They were just standing, looking around, had hands up," Sgt Dela Cruz said. "Then I saw one of them drop in the middle. I didn't know what was going on, sir. Looked to my left, saw Staff Sergeant Wuterich shooting."[/I] [I]The Iraqi civilians had been standing by a white car with their hands interlocked behind their heads when they were shot, Sgt Dela Cruz says.[/I] [I]"He [St Sgt Wuterich] told me that if anybody asked, they were running away and the Iraqi army shot them," Sgt Dela Cruz said.[/I] [I]After the five men died, a team of marines led by St Sgt Wuterich allegedly attacked two houses with grenades and gunfire in an effort to find insurgents. The dead included women, children and the elderly.[/I] Dela Cruz does have some credibility problems though, as he has already admitted that he lied during the initial investigation when he told the investigating officer that the five men had been shot by the Iraqi army. How effective his testimony ends up being will probably hinge on corroborating statements from some of the other squad members. It's impossible to say without seeing official transcripts of the investigation, but it sure sounds like something bad happened at Haditha (beyond L/Cpl Terrazas getting killed by an IED), and that, at least initially, someone lied about it. I say that only because the initial after action report claimed that "A US marine and 15 civilians were killed yesterday from the blast of a roadside bomb in Haditha.", when in fact the only one actually killed by the bomb was L/Cpl Terrazas. Everyone else was killed by the marines. Personally, I will withhold judgement until Wuterich gets his day in court. [/QUOTE]
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