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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 886083" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Why don't you read the Federal Reserve's own words about how <a href="http://www.rayservers.com/images/ModernMoneyMechanics.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">money is created </span></a>in the first place. Once you understand the fiction that is the nature of money and that the only one giving up any consideration is the borrower in the form of his/her future labor, the OWS claim of debt removal does have some merit. If however, there was consideration behind the money lent such as some form of backing, say a commodity like silver or gold, then your condemnation would have merit. The only fiction backing a piece of paper with ink in it is a grant of monopoly status to what is a private corp. interest formed into a cartel and then the belief that the rest of the suckers will take that paper with ink when we hand it to each other just as we each played the sucker when we accepted it from someone else. The only real difference between the paper with ink in your pocket and that paper with ink in a game of Monopoly is that the the former has the backing of a state fiction. In the future, electronic money in the form of debit devices will increase the ability to sustain the illusion from the check of inflation over time because regardless of the amount of money needed to buy, we won't see or need wheelbarrows to go to the store as in the Wiemar failure. Then the battle will be to keep wages up and guess how well that will work?</p><p></p><p>We bought into the lies of the 2 headed leviathan we call the 2 party state that consumes us when it was asked for an audit of the Federal Reserve and we denied the efforts at true transparency so now we will see the pulling down of our temple pillars in order to destroy them.</p><p></p><p>If these people all in all were nothing more than kookie nutjobs, you'd ignore them and they would just go away in a matter of days but this isn't going away, it's growing and there's lots more to this than kookie nutjobs. Leviathan is attacking because Leviathan fears it and well they should because Americans know they've been betrayed by the 2 headed monster that tells lies and many are waking to the truth and speaking out. May not be the most elegant, the most thoughtful or the most reasonable but in a true free market, all ideas, all methods are allowed into the free market of human action and then people are free to enter and leave in voluntary action to those market offerings. The free and open competition of the marketplace of ideas with true and total transparency make the competition between ideas the check and balance and the consumer gets the best product at it's lowest possible price. That's the real free market.</p><p></p><p>Even the Greeks are learning what<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/world/europe/in-greece-barter-networks-surge.html?_r=2" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"> Free(d) Markets</span></a> really are and how to use them in a free voluntary exhange system.</p><p></p><p>Now the "long term guests" of the prison-industrial complex are starting to <a href="http://prisonerhungerstrikesolidarity.wordpress.com/2011/10/01/prisoner-hunger-strike-grows-to-nearly-12000/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">revolt </span></a>as well. And if these Marines show up, will the Ministry of Truth aka Main Street Media blackout their story?</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>Welcome to the American Autumn!</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><span style="font-size: 10px">STRIKE THE ROOT!</span></strong></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 886083, member: 2189"] Why don't you read the Federal Reserve's own words about how [URL='http://www.rayservers.com/images/ModernMoneyMechanics.pdf'][COLOR=#ff0000]money is created [/COLOR][/URL]in the first place. Once you understand the fiction that is the nature of money and that the only one giving up any consideration is the borrower in the form of his/her future labor, the OWS claim of debt removal does have some merit. If however, there was consideration behind the money lent such as some form of backing, say a commodity like silver or gold, then your condemnation would have merit. The only fiction backing a piece of paper with ink in it is a grant of monopoly status to what is a private corp. interest formed into a cartel and then the belief that the rest of the suckers will take that paper with ink when we hand it to each other just as we each played the sucker when we accepted it from someone else. The only real difference between the paper with ink in your pocket and that paper with ink in a game of Monopoly is that the the former has the backing of a state fiction. In the future, electronic money in the form of debit devices will increase the ability to sustain the illusion from the check of inflation over time because regardless of the amount of money needed to buy, we won't see or need wheelbarrows to go to the store as in the Wiemar failure. Then the battle will be to keep wages up and guess how well that will work? We bought into the lies of the 2 headed leviathan we call the 2 party state that consumes us when it was asked for an audit of the Federal Reserve and we denied the efforts at true transparency so now we will see the pulling down of our temple pillars in order to destroy them. If these people all in all were nothing more than kookie nutjobs, you'd ignore them and they would just go away in a matter of days but this isn't going away, it's growing and there's lots more to this than kookie nutjobs. Leviathan is attacking because Leviathan fears it and well they should because Americans know they've been betrayed by the 2 headed monster that tells lies and many are waking to the truth and speaking out. May not be the most elegant, the most thoughtful or the most reasonable but in a true free market, all ideas, all methods are allowed into the free market of human action and then people are free to enter and leave in voluntary action to those market offerings. The free and open competition of the marketplace of ideas with true and total transparency make the competition between ideas the check and balance and the consumer gets the best product at it's lowest possible price. That's the real free market. Even the Greeks are learning what[URL='http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/world/europe/in-greece-barter-networks-surge.html?_r=2'][COLOR=#ff0000] Free(d) Markets[/COLOR][/URL] really are and how to use them in a free voluntary exhange system. Now the "long term guests" of the prison-industrial complex are starting to [URL='http://prisonerhungerstrikesolidarity.wordpress.com/2011/10/01/prisoner-hunger-strike-grows-to-nearly-12000/'][COLOR=#ff0000]revolt [/COLOR][/URL]as well. And if these Marines show up, will the Ministry of Truth aka Main Street Media blackout their story? [SIZE=4][B]Welcome to the American Autumn![/B] [B][SIZE=2]STRIKE THE ROOT![/SIZE][/B][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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