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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 888142" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>804,</p><p>Ignore that nonsense. There are people who won't think things out, do any homework so why waste the time. </p><p></p><p>As for the tea party, the original movement in it's own way also questioned Wall Street (opposed the bailouts) and many asked the question, "What about mainstreet?" The original tea party began to raise an even greater question and it was about the republican party itself. Many began to question and advocate abandoning the 2 party state altogether and it was at this point the astro-turfing began to happen.</p><p></p><p>Now the Occupy movement has come to that same point and place and the democrat party are trying to astro-turf that scene but there is resistance to this action within the movement. William Pitt at the liberal/progressive website "Truthout" wrote an <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120118012833/http://www.truth-out.org/delicate-moment-occupy-wall-street-movement/1318336894" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">op-ed</span></a> in which he discusses this but he takes the position they should embrace the democrat party. He sez:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I disagree with Pitt in that you will be undermined and the Tea Party is living proof of that very thing. It's all about maintaining political control. But what I find more interesting is going through the comments section and the vast majority of responders to the "include the democrat party" question, the answer was a resounding "HELL NO!" </p><p></p><p>People are waking up to the enemy that is the 2 party state and what scares them (both parties)more than anything else is a mass rejection of voting for only one of the 2 parties and the 1% who've spent all this money controlling bothsides would be in serious trouble if a mass exodus of voters either left for 3rd parties or left the process altogether. The original tea party and now aspects of the OWS have that potential IMO.</p><p></p><p>Chris Hedges had an interesting piece at <a href="http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/why_the_elites_are_in_trouble_20111009/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">Truthdig </span></a>from the perspective of on the ground at OWS and the day in, day out life of what is taking place and how it working.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 888142, member: 2189"] 804, Ignore that nonsense. There are people who won't think things out, do any homework so why waste the time. As for the tea party, the original movement in it's own way also questioned Wall Street (opposed the bailouts) and many asked the question, "What about mainstreet?" The original tea party began to raise an even greater question and it was about the republican party itself. Many began to question and advocate abandoning the 2 party state altogether and it was at this point the astro-turfing began to happen. Now the Occupy movement has come to that same point and place and the democrat party are trying to astro-turf that scene but there is resistance to this action within the movement. William Pitt at the liberal/progressive website "Truthout" wrote an [URL='https://web.archive.org/web/20120118012833/http://www.truth-out.org/delicate-moment-occupy-wall-street-movement/1318336894'][COLOR=#ff0000]op-ed[/COLOR][/URL] in which he discusses this but he takes the position they should embrace the democrat party. He sez: I disagree with Pitt in that you will be undermined and the Tea Party is living proof of that very thing. It's all about maintaining political control. But what I find more interesting is going through the comments section and the vast majority of responders to the "include the democrat party" question, the answer was a resounding "HELL NO!" People are waking up to the enemy that is the 2 party state and what scares them (both parties)more than anything else is a mass rejection of voting for only one of the 2 parties and the 1% who've spent all this money controlling bothsides would be in serious trouble if a mass exodus of voters either left for 3rd parties or left the process altogether. The original tea party and now aspects of the OWS have that potential IMO. Chris Hedges had an interesting piece at [URL='http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/why_the_elites_are_in_trouble_20111009/'][COLOR=#ff0000]Truthdig [/COLOR][/URL]from the perspective of on the ground at OWS and the day in, day out life of what is taking place and how it working. [/QUOTE]
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